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    Re: Is socialism inevitable?

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    In the story, people dream of someday joining those who actually DO something.
    I guess skiing, playing tennis and having sex are not enough to make you happy.
    Thanks, I'll try to read that book if possible.

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    Re: Is socialism inevitable?

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    Freedom lovers state that "one have the right to ones labor and the products of that labor" in contrast with slavery where they belong to the master. Does that work in over-productive economy or it just applies for the self sufficient 19 century farmer type of man? Are we moving towards some kind of plan economy, some kind of socialism, as labor becomes more and more effective and manual-free?
    Is socialism inevitable within the next 100 years?
    I share your observations about the viability of the post-industrial economy, but socialism isn't a viable solution. That isn't to say that socialism is impossible, but that it doesn't solve the underlying problem which is that artificial labor inflates the supply of labor to such an extent that there's no demand for it.

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    Re: Is socialism inevitable?

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    Are we moving towards some kind of plan economy, some kind of socialism, as labor becomes more and more effective and manual-free?Is socialism inevitable within the next 100 years?
    We are moving to End of the World, in any case not devil's socialism, the worst invention of satan which has killed more as 500 millions people in different countries. All supporters of this deadly utopia must be rushed to lunatic asylums!
    Rom 6:23:For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

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    Re: Is socialism inevitable?

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    I guess skiing, playing tennis and having sex are not enough to make you happy.
    Thanks, I'll try to read that book if possible.
    Its actually a short story in a collection called "Otherness".

    And indeed, leisure was the norm for all.

    But those with something REAL to do were admired by some who strove to join their ranks. So that they could feel useful.
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    Re: Is socialism inevitable?

    Once again it's hell no it's not. We have to take back our nation from the Obama types who are well versed in Socialism/Marxism having been raised by Muslim Father figures who were also Communists as was his mother & grandparents.

    The thinking Americans need to stop sitting around doing nothing and cowering in the face of name calling, threats, claims of racism etc.

    Liberals are typically not well versed in the truth and facts but are well trained in following the Party line and spreading lies and claims of intolerance.

    Right now we have to make sure everyone knows that the lies that claim Obama is brilliant are just that. Brilliant people don't have track record of nothing but failure save the killing one bad guy. Brilliant people don't make the same mistakes that have been proven failures, like raising taxes in a reccession while spending money tou don't have. Not to mention being caught in over 158 lies. Just Google 158 documented Obama lies, and read it for yourself.

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    Re: Is socialism inevitable?

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    OK, lets imagine we can produce almost everything with robots and the service sector is 90% of the economy. Would it be more capitalist or more socialist? And wouldn't there be a virtual monopoly on material goods as fewer and fewer manufacturers run the show?
    Not really. Just because there is more efficiency does not mean there will be less manufactures. Think about producing cell phone connections. That is not a job which requires a lot of manpower. Still there are a lot of cell phone companies in the US.

    I also believe it is government job to try to prevent monopolies. However, I do believe the economy will be more socialist for different reasons in the US and Europe, but benefits are going to be weaker. In both continents the countries are on decline, especially Europe. This will cause their finances to be problematic and they will have to increase taxes because benefits are sticky downwards. Eventually, they will have to cut benefits as well. Right now Europe is turnig right due to immigration, not because people have something against welfare. I hardly think they will be able to solve their immigration problem and the newcomers, pluss the impoverished youth will probably drive the countries to the left again in 20 years or so.

    Other countries are going to stay the way it is, Australia and New Zealand for instance. China is going to move to the right.

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    Re: Is socialism inevitable?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mayor Snorkum View Post
    Not while the Second Amendment and First Amendment are intact.
    Well saying socialism is an economic policy not a governing policy i dont think you have to worry about your guns being taken away...


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    Re: Is socialism inevitable?

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    Once again it's hell no it's not. We have to take back our nation from the Obama types who are well versed in Socialism/Marxism having been raised by Muslim Father figures who were also Communists as was his mother & grandparents.
    I would say that the US rather moved towards fascism, not socialism.
    The system in USSR and other countries was more state capitalism than socialism.

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    Re: Is socialism inevitable?

    The thing is Socialism and Democracy are on opposite sides of a big teeter-totter. Since the seat doesn't go into the ground when it hits it has to start going the other way (If it is going to move at all.). If each side is taking ideas that work from the other it is inevitable that they will meet in a similar center.

    Now overproduction is bad enough. However, some of what is being overproduced is purely luxury items that people are replacing with the next new thing that they don't need when those snappy commercials come onto the airwaves. On some of these items I think we need some time to catch our breaths (Not that we will get it.) Overproduction of food though can never really be a BAD thing as long as we are able to get it to the people who need it. Producing simple,Secure and DURABLE) housing that can be em-placed with forethought for people who need to use it is not a bad thing.

    *by forethought I mean do not place them all together in a ghetto. (We've been there and done that.)

    It used to be people would RENT rooms in boarding houses. Where are the small places for single people that don't have families to force a need for a bigger place to live. All is really needed is a safe place to sleep, a place to eat/prepare food and a restroom.

    We also NEED public restrooms that a not based in restaurants or businesses. I go in to a strip mall and have to walk from one end to the other before I find a business (Restaurant) that says they have a public restroom. We also need places where you can securely take a shower and clean yourself up. That way those cheap/small basic level efficiencies I mentioned earlier can be even more efficient.

    To summarize we need to separate the Basics from the luxuries. Food and shelter in their basic form is a necessity. If you want something MORE than basic for them though, then they become luxuries. Such as in Main Lobster can be basic (Not really, but for illustrated purposes it should be cheaper in Maine). However, If you try to get it in Vegas it is DEFINITELY a luxury.

    However when the Playstation 4 comes out, that is a Luxury item that is not really needed but will make all off those Playstation 3s out there instantly obsolete and on their way to various paths out of the original buyer's hands. (Trash / store for credit on the new system / etc.)

    We need a breather on these type of items.

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