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    Should Congress require Obama end the war in Afghanistan?

    Do you support the growing bipartisan Congressional movement to require Obama to end the war in Afghanistan?



    [I]End the War in Afghanistan, And Begin Nation-Building Here At Home

    "This week we joined with over a dozen of our colleagues – Republican and Democrat – to introduce new legislation to require the Obama Administration to present an exit strategy for U.S. forces from Afghanistan.

    Specifically, our bill (the “Afghanistan Exit and Accountability Act”) would: require the President to transmit to Congress a plan with timeframe and completion date on the transition of U.S. military and security operations in Afghanistan to the Government of Afghanistan; require the President to report quarterly (i.e. every 90 days) on the status of that transition, and the human and financial costs of remaining in Afghanistan, including increased deficit and public debt; and; included in those quarterly reports, the President must disclose to Congress the savings in 5-year, 10-year and 20-year time periods were the U.S. to accelerate redeployment and conclude the transition of all U.S. military and security operations to Afghanistan within 180 days (i.e. 6 months).

    The operation that resulted in the killing of Osama bin Laden demonstrated that the men and women of our armed forces and intelligence community are incredible people.* The world is now a better, safer place.

    The question then becomes: now what?* Now that bin Laden is dead and Al Qaeda is scattered around the globe, does it really make sense to keep using over 100,000 U.S. troops to occupy Afghanistan and prop up a corrupt government?* We don’t think so.
    Remember – we didn’t find bin Laden on the front lines of Afghanistan.* He was comfortably holed up in a mansion in Pakistan.* We must continue to target Al Qaeda wherever in the world they are.* But continuing to be bogged down in Afghanistan makes that mission harder, not easier.

    In December, Afghan President Hamid Kharzai made it clear that he would rather align himself with the Taliban than with the United States.* So why on earth are we sacrificing so much in terms of dead and wounded soldiers and billions of dollars to support him?

    We believe that bin Laden’s death creates an opportunity to re-examine our policy and to require the Administration to tell us exactly how and when we will end our massive troop presence in Afghanistan.

    Our bill requires the President to give Congress a concrete strategy and timeframe for bringing our servicemen and women home to their families and communities, and it requires quarterly reports on the human and financial costs of continuing the war – and how much we would save if we withdrew our forces within a reasonable time frame.

    That’s not too much to ask.

    To make it worse, we’re not even paying for the war. It’s on the national credit card.* The war in Afghanistan adds $100 billion a year – $2 billion each week, $8 billion each month – to our debt."

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    Re: Should Congress require Obama end the war in Afghanistan?

    Doing it immediately would be foolhardy. I think the president is gearing up for that already and we'll be out of there by 2014, just like he said we would. I base this on a belief that there is going to be another surge in Afghanistan in the summer of 2012 and the review of the war that is planned to be released in... Nov?

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    Re: Should Congress require Obama end the war in Afghanistan?

    Quote Originally Posted by xpiher View Post
    Doing it immediately would be foolhardy. I think the president is gearing up for that already and we'll be out of there by 2014, just like he said we would. I base this on a belief that there is going to be another surge in Afghanistan in the summer of 2012 and the review of the war that is planned to be released in... Nov?
    What do you think will be the realistic difference if we pull out now, or if we spend $300 billion more and end in 2014? Given our financial situation, can we afford $300 billion more, for any further gains that will most likely vanish once our troops pull out?
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    Re: Should Congress require Obama end the war in Afghanistan?

    I love how some people are saying we got Osama, so lets back out now... as if Osama was the sole reason we invaded a country...
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    Re: Should Congress require Obama end the war in Afghanistan?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    What do you think will be the realistic difference if we pull out now, or if we spend $300 billion more and end in 2014? Given our financial situation, can we afford $300 billion more, for any further gains that will most likely vanish once our troops pull out?
    The difference between now and 2014 is the readiness of the Afghan army.

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    Re: Should Congress require Obama end the war in Afghanistan?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jucon View Post
    I love how some people are saying we got Osama, so lets back out now... as if Osama was the sole reason we invaded a country...
    Osama and al Qaeda are the reason we invaded Afghanistan. Osama is now dead and experts say there are no more than 100 - 150 al-Qaeda left there. Is that worth keeping 100,000 troops there for another 3 years, costing us $300 billion more?
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    Re: Should Congress require Obama end the war in Afghanistan?

    Quote Originally Posted by xpiher View Post
    The difference between now and 2014 is the readiness of the Afghan army.
    Under a corrupt central government in a country where tribal rule has been more significant than central government? It ain't happening in 3 years and we can't afford continuous war.
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    Re: Should Congress require Obama end the war in Afghanistan?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Under a corrupt central government in a country where tribal rule has been more significant than central government?
    You'd be surprised what a United States trained military can do. Look at Yemen, not the government or the social unrest, just the military. They've been very effective taking it to Al-Queda. Hell look at Egypt.

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    Re: Should Congress require Obama end the war in Afghanistan?

    Quote Originally Posted by xpiher View Post
    You'd be surprised what a United States trained military can do.
    It didn't work in Vietnam, it hasn't worked in Iraq, and there is no proof that another $300 billion is going to leave any lasting change there under their new corrupt central government.

    If we are to ever address our debt problems, we have to eliminate unnecessary spending.


    Look at Yemen, not the government or the social unrest, just the military. They've been very effective taking it to Al-Queda. Hell look at Egypt.
    Yes, look at those places. In neither do we have 100,000 troops on the ground.
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    Re: Should Congress require Obama end the war in Afghanistan?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jucon View Post
    I love how some people are saying we got Osama, so lets back out now... as if Osama was the sole reason we invaded a country...
    Umm he WAS the sole reason we invaded the country. And he was the only remaining justification for a continued US military presence in Afghanistan. Now that he's gone, there is none.
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