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What do you prefer after death?

What do you prefer after death?

  • Everlasting death

    Votes: 7 19.4%

  • Everlasting life in Hell

    Votes: 1 2.8%

  • Everlasting life in Paradise

    Votes: 23 63.9%

  • No opinion

    Votes: 5 13.9%
  • Total voters
    36
scourge99 said:
We can't be absolutely 100%ironclad certain of anything. But we don't need to be to have reasonable beliefs and expectations. Its possible that the sun may not rise tomorrow or that apples will start floating in mid air. Its also possible that our consciousness gets magically transported to a paradise or hell when we die. The problem is there is no reason to believe any such things are true or happen. The sun continues to rise, apples continue to fall, and when people die they stay dead.
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There's no reason to believe they don't either. Trust me, science is still guessing about quite a lot....
 
Alfons said:
The true bigots are only atheists!

ATHEISTS, AGNOSTICS AND NON BELIEVERS ARE THE TRUE CRIMINALS OF THE WORLD COMMUNITY

Read here about the true liars and criminals!

EXPOSING THE ATHEIST
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Science damn you Allied Atheist Alliance!

But seriously, why are you trying to jihad my brain cells?
 
science is still guessing about quite a lot....
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Every hypothesis is a guess.

I'm really worried though. After hearing about that cursive thing... is Spinal Tap irrelevant in modern culture? Someone heard of it before, right?

"He goes to 11" is funny to old people.
 
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ecofarm said:
Every hypothesis is a guess.

I really worried though. After hearing about that cursive thing... is Spinal Tap irrelevant in modern culture? Someone heard of it before, right?

"He goes to 11" is funny to old people.
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you're worried about spinal tap becoming irrelevant?

I had a "when I was your age" moment the other day and I'm only 25. My friend's daughter (7) had a Nintendo DS and was taking photos with it and editting them on the spot. I said to her, "When I was your age we had a film camera that we had to load and crank and then we had to wait until we'd used all the film to print the pictures, which we couldn't make changes to" and she goes "what is film?"
 
tessaesque said:
you're worried about spinal tap becoming irrelevant?

I had a "when I was your age" moment the other day and I'm only 25. My friend's daughter (7) had a Nintendo DS and was taking photos with it and editting them on the spot. I said to her, "When I was your age we had a film camera that we had to load and crank and then we had to wait until we'd used all the film to print the pictures, which we couldn't make changes to" and she goes "what is film?"
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I explained to my daughter what life was like before cable AND what MTV was like when they played music just yesterday.
 
you're worried about spinal tap becoming irrelevant?
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I remember life before computers. That's ancient. The biggest change since fire. Bigger than TV or cars. Maybe bigger than electricity itself. Politically, it could compare to the agricultural revolution ~15k ago (idle sustenance is possible); we lived in the dark ages.

Spinal Tap is no Python. Half the people here probably havn't a clue.
 
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mac said:
I explained to my daughter what life was like before cable AND what MTV was like when they played music just yesterday.
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It's crazy...I remember when the internet became widely available...and I also remember when it was a pay-to-play system with very little to do and very few people to interact with. And I know kids know at 4 who are saying things like, "go google it, mommy" and looking up videos on youtube.
 
mac said:
I explained to my daughter what life was like before cable AND what MTV was like when they played music just yesterday.
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"Daddy, you mean Music Television literally meant Music Television?"
 
tessaesque said:
It's crazy...I remember when the internet became widely available...and I also remember when it was a pay-to-play system with very little to do and very few people to interact with. And I know kids know at 4 who are saying things like, "go google it, mommy" and looking up videos on youtube.
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I played Zork and Ultima II.

I used a BBS (and a 1m hard drive) for MPGs. We had to have a modem for each player online.


Snow, uphill. Both ways.
 
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mac said:
There's no reason to believe they don't either.
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Is there any reason to believe that Valkeries don't magically take your soul away to Valhalla when you die?

Is there any reason to believe that aliens from a different dimension don't steal your consciousness when you die?

Is there any reason to believe that unicorns don't spirit your "soul" into an enchanted forest?

Given that there is no evidence to believe these ideas are true besides appealing to imagination and holy-book tales then which is the most reasonable position to take, if any? Why?

mac said:
Trust me, science is still guessing about quite a lot....
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When it comes to death you don't need to be a scientist to observe that when someone's body and brain stop working their consciousness does too. There isn't anything to guess about.
 
scourge99 said:
Is there any reason to believe that Valkeries don't magically take your soul away to Valhalla when you die?

Is there any reason to believe that aliens from a different dimension don't steal your consciousness when you die?

Is there any reason to believe that unicorns don't spirit your "soul" into an enchanted forest?

Given that there is no evidence to believe these ideas are true besides appealing to imagination and holy-book tales then which is the most reasonable position to take, if any? Why?


When it comes to death you don't need to be a scientist to observe that when someone's body and brain stop working their consciousness does too. There isn't anything to guess about.
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what do you know about time?
 
Is there any reason to believe that Valkeries don't magically take your soul away to Valhalla when you die?

Is there any reason to believe that aliens from a different dimension don't steal your consciousness when you die?

Is there any reason to believe that unicorns don't spirit your "soul" into an enchanted forest?

Given that there is no evidence to believe these ideas are true besides appealing to imagination and holy-book tales then which is the most reasonable position to take, if any? Why?


When it comes to death you don't need to be a scientist to observe that when someone's body and brain stop working their consciousness does too. There isn't anything to guess about
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mac said:
what do you know about time?
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Apparently its wasted trying to have an honest debate with you. You blatantly ignore genuine questions and make red-herring statements such as the above.
 
scourge99 said:
Apparently its wasted trying to have an honest debate with you. You blatantly ignore genuine questions and make red-herring statements such as the above.
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well...i guess i can't explain heaven to you if you not only don't understand time but science either.
 
Alfons said:
Unfortunately we all will sometimes die, shortly or later, but certainly. Interesting question, what do you wish will happen with you after your death? Do you prefer to became food for flesh-eating maggots without any hope according to the teaching of secular humanists and atheists,or going to Heaven is probably better?Perhaps somebody wish go to Hell, or still can not decide, please vote and explain your choice.

BTW who know, maybe your wish will be fulfilled in the afterlife.
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I would like to be reincarnated, only being able to remember everything from my past life.

As to what actually happens...no idea.
 
Kal'Stang said:
I would like to be reincarnated, only being able to remember everything from my past life.
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I was wondering why so many people said they wanted to be reincarnated if they can't remember their previous lives. Seems like its just a fancy way of dying.
 
who cares I will be dead lol.
 
I want to be reincarnated until my soul recognizes its soul mate and our souls spend eternity together (wherever is fine, since I believe only truly hateful/evil souls go to hell). I don't even mind if I were reincarnated without any actual memories of past lives, but I believe that our souls retain some wisdom (best word I can think of to describe it) from our previous lives.

I could be completely wrong, and any of the things mentioned in the poll could be what happens to me, but I just don't think most people would go to hell and I can't imagine what heaven would be like (some descriptions do sound completely boring). If I'm just eternally dead, then I won't care because my consciousness is completely gone anyway.
 
roguenuke said:
I don't even mind if I were reincarnated without any actual memories of past lives, but I believe that our souls retain some wisdom (best word I can think of to describe it) from our previous lives.
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Perhaps you are trying to be poetic but if you aren't then what you wrote doesn't make any sense to me. What are "you" without your memories?

If I were to strip you of your body and all your memories, what would be left that we could identify as "you"?
 
scourge99 said:
Perhaps you are trying to be poetic but if you aren't then what you wrote doesn't make any sense to me. What are "you" without your memories?

If I were to strip you of your body and all your memories, what would be left that we could identify as "you"?
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I don't see a soul as just a bunch of memories but an impression of life and learning. It is hard to explain. I believe each person's soul is unique but they don't need explicit memories in order to be the way they are, just experiences throughout lifetimes. Each lifetime a soul lives through leads to a maturation of that soul and shapes that soul in a certain way.
 
roguenuke said:
I don't see a soul as just a bunch of memories but an impression of life and learning. I believe each person's soul is unique but they don't need explicit memories in order to be the way they are, just experiences throughout lifetimes. Each lifetime a soul lives through leads to a maturation of that soul and shapes that soul in a certain way.
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So you believe that minds/consciousness/"souls" can exist without the brain and body. I'm curious as to why you believe this is true.
 
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