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    Re: What do you prefer after death?

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    So you believe that minds/consciousness/"souls" can exist without the brain and body. I'm curious as to why you believe this is true.
    Don't really know, but I do believe it.

    Of course, I could be wrong but, since my beliefs have absolutely zero affect on how I actually live my life or how anyone else lives theirs, then it doesn't matter. I figure my beliefs are my own personal beliefs. Me sharing them isn't going to really make the world better or worse, but I have found that it makes interesting conversation.

    Although, it does actually help to encourage me to try new things and be more open.
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    Re: What do you prefer after death?

    Quote Originally Posted by TOJ View Post
    Maybe.... Michael Vick's dog?

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    Re: What do you prefer after death?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
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    Re: What do you prefer after death?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    well...i guess i can't explain heaven to you if you not only don't understand time but science either.
    You can't explain heaven because you've never been there. Anyone living has never had the opportunity to be there either.

    Of course this all assumes that heaven is some mystical personal utopia, or even exists. Neither of which are likely to be true.

    We all know that there is a universe above the clouds, and that dreams are random firings in our brains while we sleep. So why is it that so many people still believe in a heaven?

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    Re: What do you prefer after death?

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    Re: What do you prefer after death?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Don't really know, but I do believe it.
    Bummer. Was hoping you had an explanation. Christian explanations are boring and cliche: because I believe the Bible is true, because I met Jesus, because I just know. Non-believers usually have far more interesting explanations.

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Of course, I could be wrong
    I don't necessarily think you are wrong.... i just don't see why there is any reason to believe you are right.

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    since my beliefs have absolutely zero affect on how I actually live my life or how anyone else lives theirs, then it doesn't matter.
    Perhaps that is true for you. Personally one of the reasons I am so interested in religion and philosophy is because it has significant consequences on your worldview and the meaning you find in life.

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    I figure my beliefs are my own personal beliefs. Me sharing them isn't going to really make the world better or worse, but I have found that it makes interesting conversation.
    That depends on who you are. For people like you and I, I agree, we probably won't have an effect.

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Although, it does actually help to encourage me to try new things and be more open.
    I agree. I've come to respect quite a few positions that differ from my own, even some Christian positions. Learning is a life long process.
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    Re: What do you prefer after death?

    So you believe that minds/consciousness/"souls" can exist without the brain and body. I'm curious as to why you believe this is true.
    I believe an unconscious soul exists without the brain or body. It is our influence in the world, which does not suddenly disappear when we die. I'd say it never completely disappears, but some burn more brightly than others. When we say the "spirit" of something, what do we mean. I figure the same for people. I suppose I'm just a simpleton and I can't grasp magic. Do you deny that everyone has a (perhaps everlasting) influence in this world?

    Consciousness being the keyword, excuse my tangent.
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    Re: What do you prefer after death?

    One day while I was praying, it suddenly occurred to me that I was talking to myself.

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    Re: What do you prefer after death?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    I believe an unconscious soul exists without the brain or body. It is our influence in the world, which does not suddenly disappear when we die. I'd say it never completely disappears, but some burn more brightly than others.
    Our "influence"? I agree that our actions while alive can have influence on the world now and even long after we die. E.G., i could hide $1million then kill myself after which I have a letter delivered to someone telling them where the money is. But I don't see how that supports the idea of disembodied_minds/souls. It seems entirely irrelevant.
    If you believe in the Supernatural then you can become a millionaire!

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    Re: What do you prefer after death?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    I believe an unconscious soul exists without the brain or body. It is our influence in the world, which does not suddenly disappear when we die. I'd say it never completely disappears, but some burn more brightly than others. When we say the "spirit" of something, what do we mean. I figure the same for people. I suppose I'm just a simpleton and I can't grasp magic. Do you deny that everyone has a (perhaps everlasting) influence in this world?

    Consciousness being the keyword, excuse my tangent.
    Every action taken by every person has an effect on the world as we know it. It's what shaped today and will shape tomorrow. All of our actions are interwined and create the world around us.

    If I kill someone tomorrow, it will alter the future from its technically "predestined" plan of having that person in it. Therefore, I will have had an everlasting influence on the world.

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