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    Re: Should Military Chaplains Be Allowed to Perform Same Sex Marriages?

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    Re: Should Military Chaplains Be Allowed to Perform Same Sex Marriages?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    no doma only really applies in specific cases....military members being one of them. further, said marriages could not be performed on federal instillations like military bases.
    If you mean it only applies to SSM, you are correct(but are making an entirely irrelevant comment that does not negate mine). If you mean it any other way, you are wrong. Defense of Marriage Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Section 2. Powers reserved to the states
    No State, territory, or possession of the United States, or Indian tribe, shall be required to give effect to any public act, record, or judicial proceeding of any other State, territory, possession, or tribe respecting a relationship between persons of the same sex that is treated as a marriage under the laws of such other State, territory, possession, or tribe, or a right or claim arising from such relationship.
    Section 3. Definition of marriage
    In determining the meaning of any Act of Congress, or of any ruling, regulation, or interpretation of the various administrative bureaus and agencies of the United States, the word 'marriage' means only a legal union between one man and one woman as husband and wife, and the word 'spouse' refers only to a person of the opposite sex who is a husband or a wife.
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    Re: Should Military Chaplains Be Allowed to Perform Same Sex Marriages?

    ok, i see the point redress and rogue are making and concur. i do believe that chaplains would be barred fromperforming ssm until doma is repealed though. regardless, as you've pointed out....marriage and dependant benifits would be denied regardless.
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    Re: Should Military Chaplains Be Allowed to Perform Same Sex Marriages?

    I think military chaplains should be allowed to preform same sex marriages in states that allow it.
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    Re: Should Military Chaplains Be Allowed to Perform Same Sex Marriages?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    no doma only really applies in specific cases....military members being one of them. further, said marriages could not be performed on federal instillations like military bases.
    Why not? DADT should be officially repealed around August (according to what my husband and I are being told). Military members who get married on military installations still have to get a marriage license from the state they are in. If the state allows same sex marriage, then I don't see why it should be a big deal if they have the wedding on base or not. It isn't against any laws, not once DADT is officially gone.

    And the Navy has said that they can have their weddings on military installations, btw.
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    Re: Should Military Chaplains Be Allowed to Perform Same Sex Marriages?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    ok, i see the point redress and rogue are making and concur. i do believe that chaplains would be barred fromperforming ssm until doma is repealed though. regardless, as you've pointed out....marriage and dependant benifits would be denied regardless.
    That isn't what the Navy is putting out. They probably won't be allowed to perform them until DADT is completely repealed, but not DOMA, since, currently there isn't any timeline for the repeal of DOMA.
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    Re: Should Military Chaplains Be Allowed to Perform Same Sex Marriages?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Thread that brought this on: http://www.debatepolitics.com/genera...marriages.html

    Note that I use the term "allowed", not "forced". No chaplain would be forced to perform such a service, but allowed if they chose to.
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    Re: Should Military Chaplains Be Allowed to Perform Same Sex Marriages?

    Quote Originally Posted by Alfons View Post
    In a couple of years lefties will throw everybody to prison who dare to deny that only gay marriage is a true marriage.
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    Re: Should Military Chaplains Be Allowed to Perform Same Sex Marriages?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Thread that brought this on: http://www.debatepolitics.com/genera...marriages.html

    Note that I use the term "allowed", not "forced". No chaplain would be forced to perform such a service, but allowed if they chose to.
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    if a chaplain will perform a such 'service' he would became automatically no Christian and no Priest anymore, the Holy Bible says clearly against Homosexuality, therefore a such 'marriage' will be performed automatically by a non-Christian, therefore it will be not church marriage anymore and without any practically consequences.
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    Re: Should Military Chaplains Be Allowed to Perform Same Sex Marriages?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    That isn't what the Navy is putting out. They probably won't be allowed to perform them until DADT is completely repealed, but not DOMA, since, currently there isn't any timeline for the repeal of DOMA.
    afraid i have to disagree. i am in the navy and that's not what we've been told. even with repeal of dadt...the military will not recognize ssm. nothing has been pu out about chaplains and marriage on base.
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