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    Re: Should Military Chaplains Be Allowed to Perform Same Sex Marriages?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    By swearing to uphold the constitution we also swear to uphold and obey federal law.
    Okay, what federal law says that a chaplain in the Navy cannot marry a same sex couple in a state that recognizes same sex marriage?

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    Re: Should Military Chaplains Be Allowed to Perform Same Sex Marriages?

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Okay, what federal law says that a chaplain in the Navy cannot marry a same sex couple in a state that recognizes same sex marriage?
    I've answered this at least once per page over the last ten pages. DOMA defines marriage as between a man and a woman. That is a legal, federal, definition. The military chaplain can not perform a ceremony that violates that legal definition, regardless ofnthe location or the local laws. The military officer is never off duty and is never not subject to federal law.
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    Re: Should Military Chaplains Be Allowed to Perform Same Sex Marriages?

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Okay, what federal law says that a chaplain in the Navy cannot marry a same sex couple in a state that recognizes same sex marriage?
    I would assume DOMA. Where the Federal govt. gets the authority to regulate marriage, I don't know.

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    Re: Should Military Chaplains Be Allowed to Perform Same Sex Marriages?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    I've answered this at least once per page over the last ten pages. DOMA defines marriage as between a man and a woman. That is a legal, federal, definition. The military chaplain can not perform a ceremony that violates that legal definition, regardless ofnthe location or the local laws. The military officer is never off duty and is never not subject to federal law.
    Could they perform a "committment ceremony?" You'd think that they'd retain their right to free exercise of their religion.

    The question is, is DOMA constitutional or not? I'd have to think a lot of Conservatives suspect it isn't, or they wouldn't feel any need for an amendment.

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    Re: Should Military Chaplains Be Allowed to Perform Same Sex Marriages?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    The military chaplain can not perform a ceremony that violates that legal definition, regardless of the location or the local laws. The military officer is never off duty and is never not subject to federal law.
    Okay, exactly how does performing a same sex marriage ceremony that is not recognized by the federal government in any legal sense, violate the federal legal definition of marriage?

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    Re: Should Military Chaplains Be Allowed to Perform Same Sex Marriages?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Are you at all familiar with the us military or the whole other legal code we are subject too in addition to us law?

    The difference is that he is not just a priest...he's a military officer.
    But if he is acting in a purely religious ceremony how would it effect the legal recognition? How is it not against the 1st Amendment to deny the rights of people to preform a religious ceremony?
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    Re: Should Military Chaplains Be Allowed to Perform Same Sex Marriages?

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    Yikes, that sounds incredibly painful!

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    Re: Should Military Chaplains Be Allowed to Perform Same Sex Marriages?

    Yes anywhere and any time they want. Same with any priest or reverend or rabbi or imam. If they want to, they can. That's it. Take government out of it.

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    Re: Should Military Chaplains Be Allowed to Perform Same Sex Marriages?

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Could they perform a "committment ceremony?" You'd think that they'd retain their right to free exercise of their religion.
    No. A military officer can not even appear to be intentionally violating law.

    The question is, is DOMA constitutional or not? I'd have to think a lot of Conservatives suspect it isn't, or they wouldn't feel any need for an amendment.
    That's not for the military officer to second guess. It's federal law, and so long as it is, we must obey it.
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