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    Re: Should Military Chaplains Be Allowed to Perform Same Sex Marriages?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Can we do steroids in Argentina where they are available over the counter?
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    Re: Should Military Chaplains Be Allowed to Perform Same Sex Marriages?

    Allowed yes.

    Forced no.

    Pretty simple.

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    Re: Should Military Chaplains Be Allowed to Perform Same Sex Marriages?

    I was reminded that Bill Clinton signed the Defense of Marriage Act, and that makes it against Federal Law for Obama to let the Navy violate this Law along with
    Article 4 Section 4 of our Constitution Obama will be a prime target for Impeachment.

    I have to say Clinton's impeachment for lying about playing in the closet was a cheap shot, "I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Monica Lewinsky,What politician wouldn't lie about it.

    But the law is the law and a high crimes and misdemeanors is what this it's all about.

    An impeachment would cause Obama's Liberal followers to have complete mental melt downs. I can imagine them calling it a lynching or worse a Crucifixion.

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    Re: Should Military Chaplains Be Allowed to Perform Same Sex Marriages?

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    I was reminded that Bill Clinton signed the Defense of Marriage Act, and that makes it against Federal Law for Obama to let the Navy violate this Law along with
    Article 4 Section 4 of our Constitution Obama will be a prime target for Impeachment.

    I have to say Clinton's impeachment for lying about playing in the closet was a cheap shot, "I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Monica Lewinsky,What politician wouldn't lie about it.

    But the law is the law and a high crimes and misdemeanors is what this it's all about.

    An impeachment would cause Obama's Liberal followers to have complete mental melt downs. I can imagine them calling it a lynching or worse a Crucifixion.
    Well when you get around to prosecuting Bush (and Obama) for violating the bill of rights with the patriot act you might have a case there Skippy.

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    Re: Should Military Chaplains Be Allowed to Perform Same Sex Marriages?

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Korimir View Post
    You can get legal steroids in Argentina?
    Yes, in most South American countries, steroids that are controlled in the US are available over the counter.....at least they were when I was there last in the early 90's.
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    Re: Should Military Chaplains Be Allowed to Perform Same Sex Marriages?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Well when you get around to prosecuting Bush (and Obama) for violating the bill of rights with the patriot act you might have a case there Skippy.

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    You'd kinda have to go after all of Congress on that, Jet.
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    Re: Should Military Chaplains Be Allowed to Perform Same Sex Marriages?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Allowed yes.

    Forced no.

    Pretty simple.
    Yep I agree, this is a no brainer
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    Re: Should Military Chaplains Be Allowed to Perform Same Sex Marriages?

    Nope,never.

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    Re: Should Military Chaplains Be Allowed to Perform Same Sex Marriages?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Wow. Because he's a federal officer....he must always follow the rules a nd regulations of the dod and the federal government no matter where he is. Even a reservist should be able to understand this......

    Can military members smoke pot in Alaska? Can we ride motorcycles without helmets in states that don't require them? Can we do steroids in Argentina where they are available over the counter?
    And, again, there is no actual law, under the UCMJ or federal laws (once DADT is officially repealed completely), against either a chaplain presiding over a same sex wedding ceremony, nor from a person in the military marrying someone of the same sex. DOMA does not cover this. It may look wrong to some people, but there is no actual law against it as there are military rules and regulations against all the things that you mentioned, and they are in place for a good reason and are non-discriminatory rules/regulations.

    A military chaplain performing a wedding ceremony, or even signing a state marriage license for a same sex couple in no way forces the government or military to violate DOMA because the federal government nor military will have to recognize the marriage just because it was performed by a military officer. He is simply signing a state legal document, which he is authorized to do in the state that he is stationed in.
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    Re: Should Military Chaplains Be Allowed to Perform Same Sex Marriages?

    Quote Originally Posted by GoodOleBoy View Post
    Nope,never.
    So if a Chaplain believed that SSM was okay with their particular religion, and two LGBT soldiers wanted to have a military weeding, why shouldn't he be able to preform this entirely religious ceremony? Why would you deny their first amendment rights?
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