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    that's cute. how good are they at shooting A-10's out of the sky with their hunting rifles?



    free trade is a net benefit, and NAFTA has been a net benefit to all nations involved. trade between our countries has exploded in the past decade as each of us have found ways to become more economically productive by working with each other. security concerns (mexican truckers = mexican immigrants / mexican drug cartels) are a legitimate point of worry, but not enough to say "NAFTA sucks".
    The following is why Nafta sucks

    There is much concern in Canada over the provision that if something is sold even once as a commodity, the government cannot stop its sale in the future.[23] This applies to the water from Canada's lakes and rivers, fueling fears over the possible destruction of Canadian ecosystems and water supply.

    In 1999, Sun Belt Water Inc., a company out of Santa Barbara, California, filed an Arbitration Claim under Chapter 11 of the NAFTA claiming $105 million as a result of Canada's prohibition on the export of bulk water by marine tanker, a move that destroyed the Sun Belt business venture. The claim sent shock waves through Canadian governments that scrambled to update water legislation and remains unresolved.

    Other fears come from the effects NAFTA has had on Canadian lawmaking. In 1996, the gasoline additive MMT was brought into Canada by an American company. At the time, the Canadian federal government banned the importation of the additive. The American company brought a claim under NAFTA Chapter 11 seeking US$201 million,[24] and by Canadian provinces under the Agreement on Internal Trade ("AIT"). The American company argued that their additive had not been conclusively linked to any health dangers, and that the prohibition was damaging to their company. Following a finding that the ban was a violation of the AIT,[25] the Canadian federal government repealed the ban and settled with the American company for US$13 million.[26] Studies by Health and Welfare Canada (now Health Canada) on the health effects of MMT in fuel found no significant health effects associated with exposure to these exhaust emissions. Other Canadian researchers and the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency disagree with Health Canada, and cite studies that include possible nerve damage.[27]


    Ponderosa Pine logs taken from Malheur National Forest, Grant County, Oregon.The United States and Canada had been arguing for years over the United States' decision to impose a 27 percent duty on Canadian softwood lumber imports, until new Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper compromised with the United States and reached a settlement on July 1, 2006.[28] The settlement has not yet been ratified by either country, in part due to domestic opposition in Canada.
    North American Free Trade Agreement - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    The requirement for continuation of exports to the US ( despite the possibility of a higher bidder or internal Canadian security issues) if the product was exported in the past, and the faluire of the US to live up to its side of the aggrement
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    Re: Domestic Drilling

    I have no problem with free trade, but Nafta is not just about free trade
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    Re: Domestic Drilling

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    I have no problem with free trade, but Nafta is not just about free trade
    NAFTA isn't free trade at all.

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    Re: Domestic Drilling

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    I have no problem with free trade, but Nafta is not just about free trade
    Look, Mountie; know your place.



    you seriously going to sit here and tell me that American companies are the only ones that take advantage of NAFTA rules?

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    Re: Domestic Drilling

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Look, Mountie; know your place.



    you seriously going to sit here and tell me that American companies are the only ones that take advantage of NAFTA rules?
    Of course not, but they are the ones that do take advantage the most ( the US government being the 800 lb monkey in the room) The ability of the Can government to enforce Nafta rulings benifiting Can companies in the US is far less then then US governments ability
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    that's going to be a truism of any system. make the rules apply equally to both sides, and then let them figure it out. you want to get business out of government? get government out of business. you bastards are already slashing your corporate tax rate; and you rate higher on the economic freedom index. don't think we aren't on to your' little "become a good place to do business" scheme.

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    I find it funny how countries have to whore themselves out to investors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    that's going to be a truism of any system. make the rules apply equally to both sides, and then let them figure it out. you want to get business out of government? get government out of business. you bastards are already slashing your corporate tax rate; and you rate higher on the economic freedom index. don't think we aren't on to your' little "become a good place to do business" scheme.
    Not to mention our lower cost of doing business due to universal health care being covered by personal income taxes and not corporations bottom lines
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    universal what? i thought access to a waiting list isn't access to health care?

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    I find it funny how countries have to whore themselves out to investors.
    i find it funny how people think that a government letting it's citizens have greater personal freedom is "whoring" itself to them.

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    Re: Domestic Drilling

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    universal what? i thought access to a waiting list isn't access to health care?



    i find it funny how people think that a government letting it's citizens have greater personal freedom is "whoring" itself to them.
    Being on a list to get surgery is better then not getting surgery at all
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