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    Re: Now, that we have robots to do the fighting, is war more likely?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    … Did that answer your question?
    No, but, I respect the effort. Take a moment and examine the OP. The British Ministry of Defence is asking important ethical and political-military questions about the nature of conflict now and in the future.

    My sense is that what they are addressing is an ‘inevitable’ pathway to ever more sophisticated fighting machines, robots, which, if we were ever to enter conflict with a similarly technologically capable society (e.g., China) would escalate to ever more advanced automatons and beyond: Terminators; it would be a race to our own destruction.

    We can take comfort that today's robots are human-guided, but, for how long? Each conflict we enter into becomes a little easier because the casualties of war just get buried in the local dump instead of arriving on a regular schedule at Dover Air Force base.
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    Re: Now, that we have robots to do the fighting, is war more likely?

    Jeeze, man, do a little research before you spout off...

    They they are not robots. The are remotely controlled bombers by pilots, safe and sound, hundreds of miles away, who have no idea who they are killing, only shadowy one dimension images.

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    Re: Now, that we have robots to do the fighting, is war more likely?

    Quote Originally Posted by Temporal View Post
    The desire to be at war makes war more likely. On the whole, there are less wars now than there ever have been in history.

    Robots are more expensive than soldiers, so there is also that angle.
    Do you have any evidence that this is actually the case?
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

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    Re: Now, that we have robots to do the fighting, is war more likely?

    Quote Originally Posted by ricksfolly View Post
    … They they are not robots. …
    Tell that to the British Ministry of Defence which analyzed the broad direction of the current technology trends. The point is the next generation and each generation thereafter will require less and less human intervention.

    Today unmanned aircraft can take off and land themselves. Tomorrow, they can isolate and aim at their targets. And, the day after that, what will they need to fulfill their missions? Not humans, it seems likely.
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    Re: Now, that we have robots to do the fighting, is war more likely?

    They will not be conventional wars, essentially policing efforts at the edge of empires

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    Re: Now, that we have robots to do the fighting, is war more likely?

    I don't think we'll ever see robot infantry, which sucks 'cause robots are cool.
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    Re: Now, that we have robots to do the fighting, is war more likely?

    Even if it does make war more likely, so what?

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    Re: Now, that we have robots to do the fighting, is war more likely?

    Quote Originally Posted by TOJ View Post
    Even if it does make war more likely, so what?

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    It's bad that's what.

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    Re: Now, that we have robots to do the fighting, is war more likely?

    I wasn't aware that we had robots to do the fighting. I am aware of some remote capabilities, but robots aren't doing any fighting, so I'm ot really sure what you're talking about. Do you mean this?:



    I wouldn't ordinarily joke about war in any way, but since the assumption in the OP is in my opinion flawed, I had at it.

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    Re: Now, that we have robots to do the fighting, is war more likely?

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    It's bad that's what.
    Well, that's that explains it.

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