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    Re: Cain: 'American People Are Anxious for Solutions'

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    I think an interesting ticket will be West/Rubio. I see it for 2016...I don't think 2012 matters. Its not in play.
    There are two problems I envision with a West/Rubio ticket.
    1. Since they will not be able to include Florida's electoral votes even if they win the state, that puts at a major disadvantage to their Democratic counterparts. To make that up they would need to win every other swing state and I see that as a long shot.

    2. Politicians have ego. Senator Rubio is ambitious and I cannot see him choosing to be Vice President to a, quite frankly, lesser politician in Allen West.

    With regards to Herman Cain, I do not see what is so impressive about him. It seems that all he does is repeat the standard conservative talking points of the last 30 years, while offering no actual new ideas. Maybe one of his fans can help me out with that.

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    Re: Cain: 'American People Are Anxious for Solutions'

    Quote Originally Posted by Spaceman_Spiff View Post
    There are two problems I envision with a West/Rubio ticket.
    1. Since they will not be able to include Florida's electoral votes even if they win the state, that puts at a major disadvantage to their Democratic counterparts. To make that up they would need to win every other swing state and I see that as a long shot.

    2. Politicians have ego. Senator Rubio is ambitious and I cannot see him choosing to be Vice President to a, quite frankly, lesser politician in Allen West.

    With regards to Herman Cain, I do not see what is so impressive about him. It seems that all he does is repeat the standard conservative talking points of the last 30 years, while offering no actual new ideas. Maybe one of his fans can help me out with that.
    Because there hasn't been an actual conservative in the White House for 22 years. Neither of the Bushes were conservative... they were both big-gov centrists. Center-right at best.

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    Re: Cain: 'American People Are Anxious for Solutions'

    Quote Originally Posted by xpiher View Post
    If you are republican, you don't want Rommey. He won't invigorate the base and they won't go out to vote because Hes Obama lite in the bases eyes.

    Back on topic: Cain supports the Fair tax law (woot) because of the prebate system, which is suppose to ensure that no one pays taxes on life essentials. Now, in the past I was more incline to not tax essentials, but I shied away from that due to it giving certain industries special privileges. What I was thinking though, instead of a prebate, which is money doled out based on family size and your states poverty line to cover life expenses, why not do the reverse income tax. The reverse income tax, purposed by Milton Freedman, is, IMO, fundamentally different, because it is means tested. This way, the rich get taxed at a higher rate and the poor are completely removed from the burden of the taxes.

    Thoughts?
    The fair tax encourages making as much money as possible, be it the rich, middle class, or poor. Miltons way is still punishing success and giving no incentive really to improve your lifestyle. With the fair tax the rich will still be paying way more than lower income, because they buy way more new stuff.
    For example, say a stinkin' rich guy goes out and buys a new porsche. He's going to pay a lot of taxes on that baby. When he decides to sell someday, the taxes have already been paid, and the not so rich guy pays nothing in taxes.
    The only class warfare will be because one class can afford new and the other can't. Ahaa! Those jealous of that may get motivated to work harder or further their education.
    Today, all we here is tax the rich. It gets old, and does nothing to encourage people to become successful.
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    Re: Cain: 'American People Are Anxious for Solutions'

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    I disagree, I think based on what I saw, agree with him or not, Cain would destroy Romney... and while Romney wouldn't be the worst prez in my opinion I think this election is really going to be about who's the lesser of two evils.

    I will reserve my judgement for now on who I'm going to choose to endorse at the end of it all... but I'm not endorsing Obama as of yet.

    I just really don't wanna see a socially conservative jackass in the white House.
    If Cain gets the nomination it will be the first time ever, I won't be voting for the lesser of two evils. Romney, Pawlenty, Santorum, Trump, Huckabee, yep, I'll be holding my nose again like I did for Mccain. Palin,? Bachmann? ( The only other real conservatives) I like them alot but I don't think they can beat Obama. Cain can.
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    Re: Cain: 'American People Are Anxious for Solutions'

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    lol, that'd be all well and good if I was American.
    LOL, you can probably still get away with voting Dem.

    J/k
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    Re: Cain: 'American People Are Anxious for Solutions'

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    I didn't see the debate, but I wasn't impressed with his highest mark during the debate. He said something like "Government isn't the solution, it's the problem. The government has never created a job. The government needs to get out of the free market, and let businesses create jobs."

    Then he said something like... and the government shouldn't tell businesses where to build a factory.

    I have heard a lot of republicans say the stuff he said. If that's his highest moment in the debate, I am kind of shocked. He didn't say anything new or groundbreaking. That was nothing but talking points. I didn't hear a policy proposal or a solution to anything.

    I also disagree with him that company's should be allowed to build factories where ever they want, no, they shouldn't be allowed to build factories in some places. They shouldn't be allowed to build factories near nature reserves and natural parks, or in communities and destroy that community's natural resources with pollution.. Call me a hippie or whatever, I don't give a ****. But my sister is a lawyer and she's told me about companies polluting communities and giving the people cancer, and then playing stupid about the health risks they exposed innocent people and families to. That isn't right. Cain is probably an unlikely candidate to have that ever happen to him though, because when politicians pretend like they don't care about the safety of the others, they still care about themselves. I can't believe people clapped when he said that, what a bunch a suckers.
    Liblady, I've heard several people complain about that statement he made. You don't have the whole story. They were in SC and they were talking about boeing. That got lost in the translation by the media. That why the huge applause.

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    Re: Cain: 'American People Are Anxious for Solutions'

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    If Cain gets the nomination it will be the first time ever, I won't be voting for the lesser of two evils. Romney, Pawlenty, Santorum, Trump, Huckabee, yep, I'll be holding my nose again like I did for Mccain. Palin,? Bachmann? ( The only other real conservatives) I like them alot but I don't think they can beat Obama. Cain can.
    Real conservatives? Palin and Bachmann? LOL. Nope, they are both social conservative statist.
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    Re: Cain: 'American People Are Anxious for Solutions'

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Let's see...... can any of you guys name a single law he's ever helped pass? What's his foreign policy experience? What legislation has he ever supported? Maybe you can point us to a single bill he's ever sponsored? His political resume is.... thin.
    Suddenly the LEFT discovers this might be an issue....

    ...how pathetic.

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    Re: Cain: 'American People Are Anxious for Solutions'

    Quote Originally Posted by Alfons View Post
    Cain together with Palin could be an option.
    Nah.. but Cain could appoint her to a job in energy. I bet they'd work together real well. I'm still hoping West will give in and run or at least accept the VP. There's serious going ons to draft him. Who knows, stranger things have happened.
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    Re: Cain: 'American People Are Anxious for Solutions'

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    I'd rather have Romney.
    Of course you would. That's why real Americans don't like that two-faced trash from Taxachusetts. The LEFT likes him.

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