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    Are we at war with Pakistan?

    Are we at war with Pakistan?
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    Re: Are we at war with Pakistan?

    No.

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    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

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    Re: Are we at war with Pakistan?

    We're at war with the Pakistani colonels if not the generals; so, yes, yes we are.
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    Re: Are we at war with Pakistan?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    We're at war with the Pakistani colonels if not the generals; so, yes, yes we are.
    how are we at war with their colonels?
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Are we at war with Pakistan?

    We need them, so no.
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    Re: Are we at war with Pakistan?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    how are we at war with their colonels?
    Better stated, they're at war with us. They were part of defeating the Soviet Union twenty years ago, now, defeating the U.S. is just more of the same.

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    We need them, so no.
    Point is, we need them more than they need us; indeed they hold nothing but contempt for our nation.
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    Re: Are we at war with Pakistan?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    Point is, we need them more than they need us; indeed they hold nothing but contempt for our nation.
    Really, what do you think would happen if Pakistan lost the billions given to it America?
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    Re: Are we at war with Pakistan?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    Really, what do you think would happen if Pakistan lost the billions given to it America?
    War with India? Oh, yeah, that's what's already happened. Maybe some more of that.
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    Re: Are we at war with Pakistan?

    No, we are not at war with Pakistan. We may be unsatisfied with them, but not at war. How can you be at war with a nation you are funding?
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    Re: Are we at war with Pakistan?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    War with India? Oh, yeah, that's what's already happened. Maybe some more of that.
    Why would Pakistan go to war with India again?
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