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Did you want Osama Bin Laden killed?

Did you want Osama Bin Laden killed?


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Because you can’t “even imagine” does not mean it didn’t have an impact similar to 9/11 and that is why Disney and I are correct in stating it’s not important to you. You personalized, evaluated and judged the impact as less than 9/11, not us.

I've personalized nothing. Indeed, instead, I've acknowledged on an individual level that it could be a more important instances for people...but when looking at the nation and the population as a whole that it isn't AS important/impactful as 9/11.

Further, as you have posted, twice now, in great detail, the terrible physical destruction and far reaching effects of that day, you bolster my claim that bin Laden’s death is of national significance. The man who was most responsible for the horror of that day and ensuing changes in our American lives is dead. Though there was no video or pictures of his death, as the news hit our TV screens, we saw video and stills of towers coming down, the skeletal remains of the buildings, the first responders digging through smoking rubble and people holding signs with the names of their potentially dead loved ones. We were, as a nation, in that moment of terror and grief once again. I and mean, as a nation:

Yes, it had a very very strong viewership. It also had 1/2 of the viewership of something like the Superbowl. So while yes, a lot of people watched his address, again I think you are grossly over exaggerating the magnitude.

And no, people didn't watch those things. They may've relived them in their mind...but they also relived them with 10 years worth of time since seeing them happen live. I am not discounting the fact that it was a major event. It was. However, 9/11 was a generational event of monumental magnitude. Winning a $1 million dollar lottery is a huge windfal and prize. It makes $100 you win at a local raffle look like chump changed. However, it is magnitudes less than the national budget.

The capture of Obama was like winning a million dollar lottery. 9/11 was our national debt.

The nationally televised Sunday Night Baseball game was still on ESPN and as people in crowd got messages on their phones and it was announced, the ballpark broke out in chants of USA! USA!

I cannot imagine that it didn’t have a great impact on us.

Again, you're building a strawman. I'm not arguing that Bin Laden's capture didn't have a "great impact", I'm arguing that impact is nothing close to the impact 9/11 had on us. You seem to need to create this fake argument and apply it to me that I'm suggesting Bin Laden's impact is small compared to anything instead of what I'm actually arguing which is that its small when put up against the impact of 9/11 itself. I'd still say its a far bigger impact than many things, such as the capture of Saddam which I hardly think you'd believe me to say was of "no importance".

This is a confusing statement. You know my point wasn’t about how liberals felt about Clinton, but then it is?

Your point was how the "country came together", however you were very one sided on this, talking only about what liberals did. I was pointing out there was another side to that in 2001, and that was how republicans acted as well.

My point was about how republicans felt about Clinton and Liberals felt about Bush, just like you're talking about how Liberals acted then towards Bush and how Republicans are acting towards Obama now.

The crux of these statements is that liberals are to blame for conservative’s failure to set aside their anger at President Obama’s legitimate election to the office to stand with him as Americans. That seems very childish of them.

No, the crux of these statements was to show that your one sided bashing of how conservatives are acting right now is nothing but partisanship, because both sides aren't acting like they did in 2001. Are liberals to blame for how conservativesare acting? Not at all. But its dishonest to complain only about the fact conservatives are acting different than 2001 and pissing and moaning about that while not saying a word to the fact liberals are doing the same thing.

Neither side is acting the same way that the other side did during 9/11.

My house is very sound as Speaker Boehner’s refusal to bring a resolution to the floor to commend the troops for getting bin Laden reinforces it:
House Republicans say they have no plans to follow the Senate in passing a resolution honoring the military mission that killed Osama bin Laden.

One side acting stupidly doesn't mean your house is sound. That's idiotic on the part of the Speaker and I'd be interested to see his reasoning behind it. There's absolutely no reason not to pass a quick and simple resolution like that. I know the whole "more important things then meaningless resolution" notion, but really this is one of those cases I think it'd be understandable.

That is very petty especially when the house could have followed the example of the senate and congratulate Bush as well. It passed 97-0, so at least not all Republicans are willing to slight the military to avoid giving the president kudos and Democrats were fine with giving Bush the same. Were Nancy Pelosi were to try that, the screeching from the right that liberals hate the troops would be deafening.

And you'd likely be sitting there defending Nancy's reasons and condemning the right for attacking the left, just like your one sided attacking of conservatives not acting the same as their counter part in 9/11, so excuse me if I think your indignation comes off hollow.

Are there Republicans acting dumb during this? Yes. Are there liberals acting dumb during this? Yes. If a few people acting dumb indicates the entire side, is either side acting like the other did during 9/11? No.

And you still didn't tell me the emotional, societal, econimcal, and practical impacts of Bin Laden's death on our lives like I did for 9/11. It shouldn't be hard to do since you suggest they're of equal importance and impact on the country.
 
If you answered YES......

Congratulations, you have the same intellect, guts, ability, and capability of our Community-Orgainzer-In-Chief...... Barack HusSame Obama.......who also answered YES, which thereby brought an end to his contribution and involvement in the planning, execution, and situation alltogether.

If you believe a President with zero foreign policy experience and not a shred of military experience had anything more to do with Osama's killing than "Yes"........you would sorely be mistaken.

Let us congratulate Obama on saying YES, albeit a nutless monkey could have also done that job.


If you answered NO......

You are not qualified to be Commander-In-Chief.......sorry.
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I didn't want him to be specifically killed as I am not the revenge type, but I did want the threat he represented removed.
 
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Tell me......

.......and then tell me what you think a President with no foreign policy experience, and not a shred of military experience, did above and beyond "Yes, kill Osama".



Its not a talking point........its common sense.
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Well lets first start with he/Obama did not give up on Bin Laden as Bush did. Can you admit this? If so we may be able to keep talking:)
 
Tell me......

.......and then tell me what you think a President with no foreign policy experience, and not a shred of military experience, did above and beyond "Yes, kill Osama".



Its not a talking point........its common sense.
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Well if the leader's don't actually contribute to anything in an organization, I guess the business implications are astounding ...
 
If possible, Osama should have been brought back to the U.S. and put on trial. It would have lead to his execution anyways.

But I'm having a hard time understanding how a 50+ year old man who was unarmed could have posed a threat to the highly trained SEALS, which lead to him getting shot in the head and in the chest... and no where else somehow. Obviously I wasn't there, but I'd like to hear more information about how all this went down.

If they executed him then and there (or shot him before giving him a chance to surrender), that would be a horrible representation of our country. What Osama did was unforgivable, but we should not stoop down to that level. Justice and revenge are on completely different levels.
 
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If possible, Osama should have been brought back to the U.S. and put on trial. It would have lead to his execution anyways.

But I'm having a hard time understanding how a 50+ year old man who was unarmed could have posed a threat to the highly trained SEALS, which lead to him getting shot in the head and in the chest... and no where else somehow. Obviously I wasn't there, but I'd like to hear more information about how all this went down.

If they executed him then and there (or shot him before giving him a chance to surrender), that would be a horrible representation of our country. What Osama did was unforgivable, but we should not stoop down to that level. Justice and revenge are on completely different levels.

While wifey rushed the assault team, bin Laden was at the far end of the room moving in a manner that did not signify his surrender. The great age-equalizer, an AK-47, along with a handgun were later found in the same room. This was the equivalent of SEALs storming Hitler's bunker, and taking him out with extreme prejudice. If it was a choreographed hit on our enemy's top commander, I am seriously okay with that, just as I would have been okay with putting a bullet between Hitler's eyes on the battlefield of WW2.
 
If possible, Osama should have been brought back to the U.S. and put on trial. It would have lead to his execution anyways.

But I'm having a hard time understanding how a 50+ year old man who was unarmed could have posed a threat to the highly trained SEALS, which lead to him getting shot in the head and in the chest... and no where else somehow. Obviously I wasn't there, but I'd like to hear more information about how all this went down.

If they executed him then and there (or shot him before giving him a chance to surrender), that would be a horrible representation of our country. What Osama did was unforgivable, but we should not stoop down to that level. Justice and revenge are on completely different levels.

The end result is the same, and this way we don't have to endure a show trial that gives Osama one last international platform to spew his rhetoric and appear as a martyr to all the Islamic world. We're at war with Al Queda, an opponent that has no respect for the civilized rules of war. Bin Laden was a perfectly legitimate military target.
 
No. I don't want anyone "killed" for revenge. I do on the other hand think he got what he deserved insofar as he hurt and killed many.

We have to be better than those we fight and not stoop to the level they do.
 
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Duh! Of course!
 
Yea, but i kinda wanted him alive also...
But i can see if i had a gun and was standing right in front of the ****er it would be hard for me not to shoot him in the face...
But either which way it dont matter to me...
 
I wanted him tickled to death. Does that count?


I was sort of hoping for a repeat of the almost final scene of Braveheart sans the merciful beheading
 
I was sort of hoping for a repeat of the almost final scene of Braveheart sans the merciful beheading

I've never watched that movie. :lol:
 
If you answered YES......

Congratulations, you have the same intellect, guts, ability, and capability of our Community-Orgainzer-In-Chief...... Barack HusSame Obama.......who also answered YES, which thereby brought an end to his contribution and involvement in the planning, execution, and situation alltogether.

If you believe a President with zero foreign policy experience and not a shred of military experience had anything more to do with Osama's killing than "Yes"........you would sorely be mistaken.

Let us congratulate Obama on saying YES, albeit a nutless monkey could have also done that job.


If you answered NO......

You are not qualified to be Commander-In-Chief.......sorry..

I think you are overlooking some pretty critical distinctions here.


I didn't want Osama killed. I wanted him whisked away to a secret prison where his head was dunked underwater until he told us everything he knew and then some. The intel dump we got from his house is supposed to be enormous - imagine how much more we could glean from it if we had him to question over it, if we could drag from his brain every ounce of context, meaning, and background. Then we should have released some pathetic videos of him going over the notes with US analysts, helping the Americans to decipher the information and track down his former jihadi buddies....

.... and then we should have executed him.



:( sadly, this could never happen. Osama had to be killed right there, lest Eric Holder get his claws into the case and start insisting that he be read his Miranda Rights, provided a Lawyer, used to Prove the Purity of the System, etc.... Had one of the SEALs (gasp!) mishandled delicate Osama, we would have had to see one of our True Heroes get put on trial because a poor wittle tewwowist weader got his wrist slapped.

So Osama had to be killed. Not because that was the optimum solution, but to keep our own idiots from turning him into a weapon against us.
 
I think you are overlooking some pretty critical distinctions here.


I didn't want Osama killed. I wanted him whisked away to a secret prison where his head was dunked underwater until he told us everything he knew and then some. The intel dump we got from his house is supposed to be enormous - imagine how much more we could glean from it if we had him to question over it, if we could drag from his brain every ounce of context, meaning, and background. Then we should have released some pathetic videos of him going over the notes with US analysts, helping the Americans to decipher the information and track down his former jihadi buddies....

.... and then we should have executed him.



:( sadly, this could never happen. Osama had to be killed right there, lest Eric Holder get his claws into the case and start insisting that he be read his Miranda Rights, provided a Lawyer, used to Prove the Purity of the System, etc.... Had one of the SEALs (gasp!) mishandled delicate Osama, we would have had to see one of our True Heroes get put on trial because a poor wittle tewwowist weader got his wrist slapped.

So Osama had to be killed. Not because that was the optimum solution, but to keep our own idiots from turning him into a weapon against us.

I thought only liberals hated America.
 
If you answered YES......

Congratulations, you have the same intellect, guts, ability, and capability of our Community-Orgainzer-In-Chief...... Barack HusSame Obama.......who also answered YES, which thereby brought an end to his contribution and involvement in the planning, execution, and situation alltogether.

If you believe a President with zero foreign policy experience and not a shred of military experience had anything more to do with Osama's killing than "Yes"........you would sorely be mistaken.

Let us congratulate Obama on saying YES, albeit a nutless monkey could have also done that job.


If you answered NO......

You are not qualified to be Commander-In-Chief.......sorry.
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Yes I did. No that doesn't make me superhuman, and no I'm still not qualified to be the Commander in Chief. I wanted him killed because I did not want him brought to Club Git'mo or otherwise captured where the Left could give him all the media attention necessary to re-elevate Osama back to an ideological demigod.
 
Yes I did. No that doesn't make me superhuman, and no I'm still not qualified to be the Commander in Chief.

Nonsense......the judgement you just displayed makes you as qualifed or perhaps more qualified than our current Community-Organizer-In-Chief.........or a nutless monkey.

I wanted him killed because I did not want him brought to Club Git'mo or otherwise captured where the Left could give him all the media attention necessary to re-elevate Osama back to an ideological demigod.

To have brought Osama back alive.......would have only highlighted the mockery the Democrats have made of our judicial system.....thus Obama murdered Osama.
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Nonsense......the judgement you just displayed makes you as qualifed or perhaps more qualified than our current Community-Organizer-In-Chief.........or a nutless monkey.



To have brought Osama back alive.......would have only highlighted the mockery the Democrats have made of our judicial system.....thus Obama murdered Osama.
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I Voted No for a simple reason. I would have liked to have seen him captured and brought to International trial for the world to see, then the outcome would have been more acceptable if he were hung, or shot. The Jews did this with their Nazi Hunters without problem. Our SEALS could easily have done the same thing expecially as they had a helicopter at their disposal. Killing him on the spot was a bad error in Administrative judgement.
 
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