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    Re: Did you want Osama Bin Laden killed?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    You can start with the fact that Obama promised during his campaign that he would put the focus back on those who attacked our country, away from Iraq..and would actively seek to capture OBL....and he did that.

    Its sad that your ODS prevents you from seeing that.
    .....Obama also promised to close Gitmo......

    .....good thing Obama is a 24/7 lie factory......otherwise America's Finest would never have had the key intel that led to Obama saying "Yes", and the killing of Osama.
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    Re: Did you want Osama Bin Laden killed?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    You can start with the fact that Obama promised during his campaign that he would put the focus back on those who attacked our country, away from Iraq..and would actively seek to capture OBL....and he did that.

    Its sad that your ODS prevents you from seeing that.
    You do understand exactly who you're arguing with right?
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    Re: Did you want Osama Bin Laden killed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    So you really think that is the extent of Obama's involvement in this? Are you really that naive? Do you honestly believe that he hadn't had tons of briefings with military intelligence people? Do you think he was in no way involved in the planning of this?
    Tell me.......

    .......do you think a President with no foregin policy experience and ZERO military experience played some vital role?

    .......besides saying "Yes, kill Osama"?
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    Re: Did you want Osama Bin Laden killed?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Its sad, that at a time when this country should really be coming together, the ODS crowd cannot stomach giving credit where credit is due. They would rather continue in their efforts to draw this country apart then admit that the man that they hate did something great for this country. Truly sad and pathetic.
    yes, the petty horrible right wing that by and large is just refusing the obviously even handed, non-partisan, non-political, attempts at embracing this as a nation as exhibited by outstanding leftists...such as this:

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    I thank God that we have a President that put the focus back where it belonged in the first place.....mission accomplished.
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    Yeah right....G.W. "Mission Accomplished" Bush wouldn't know anything about a photo-op....riiiiiiiiight!!!!!
    Yep, taking jabs at the prior President is definitely the left trying to "come together"

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    YouTube - Bush: Truly not concerned about bin Laden (short version) The difference between a President that knows what he is doing....and one who doesn't. Thank you to the US Military...and thank you to President Obama for restoring honor and integrity to the White House and the United States
    And how about immedietely using it to absolutely slam past President through taking words completely and utterly out of context.

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Bush laid down the "yellow brick road"....puh-lease. Perhaps two bricks before he decided to build a detour to Iraq and use the yellow bricks to take our focus away from where it belonged.
    Bush's yellow brick road would never have led to Bin Laden.....sorry.
    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Bush laid down the "yellow brick road"....puh-lease. Perhaps two bricks before he decided to build a detour to Iraq and use the yellow bricks to take our focus away from where it belonged.
    Bush's yellow brick road would never have led to Bin Laden.....sorry.
    And yes, god damn that evil right-wing who are clearly the only people making this political and attempting to divert credit away from individuals for political gains and to push their political agenda.

    Your feigned outrage is pathetic Disney and your words show how hollow it truly is. Are some on the right acting as dispciable as you? Absolutely. That's no more the definition of "The right wing" then you are of the left wing. It just shows there's ridiculous hyper partisans on both sides that don't give a damn about anything except for thier political agenda.

    To the topic of the thread...yes, Osama should've been killed. There wasn't a place in this country and potentially world where an honest and fair trial could've been conducted without bias. While interrogating him may've yeilded valuable intelligence, I think the harm of the long drawn out delay in his trial would've likely proved more troublesome than what we may've gleamed from him.

    However, I disagree with the assertion that it was an "easy" call. For one, we don't know all the evidence that was provided to him and how concrete it was...it could've been like past instances under Bush and Obama where they did not move on a chance because the information either wasn't definitive enough, the risks were too great, or a combination of both. It could've also been a slam dunk that he was 99% there, but it still wouldn't be an honestly easy decision if we're being truthful about this and honestly trying to look at it from the vantage point of a President. You're commiting men's lives to the mission. You're potentially causing a significant foreign issue with the Pakistani government if you're wrong. If you're wrong, but not all the intel is wrong, you've successfully cut a thread of intelligence prematurely potentially ruining years of intel gathering. No, it was far from an easy choice to say "yes" no matter how much of a slam dunk it was that he was there. And this isn't even taking into account the potential "political" thoughts that could be playing into it, but simply thoughts important to the position of Commander-In-Chief.

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    Re: Did you want Osama Bin Laden killed?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    It all depends on what you mean by the "truther" movement. If you mean that Bush was actively involved in 911....that is an extreme fringe group.
    If you mean that Bush had received information that OBL was planning to use planes as human missles and fly them into skyscrapers...and didn't act upon it...that is a much larger group.

    Regardless.....The right-wing has clearly shown how much more petty they are than the left. At least, for the sake of the country, the left was able to put aside their differences with GWB and come together as a country. A great deal of the right-wing is showing that they are incapable of this.
    Both movements are wrong though and partisan in nature. During that time we saw many on the left making documentaries about 9/11 and lying to pin it on Bush. Both sides have issues, but the left isn't innocent nor are the masters at putting partisanship aside and coming together. Many embarrassed themselves post 9/11.
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    Re: Did you want Osama Bin Laden killed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Badmutha View Post
    Tell me.......

    .......do you think a President with no foregin policy experience and ZERO military experience played some vital role?

    .......besides saying "Yes, kill Osama"?
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    boy, this is really killing some of you hardcore members of the right... the seals got the job done, obama gave the green light for the operation..if this operation had went bad, you would be quick to point the finger at obama, and lay all blame at his feet...this is hillarious watching you guys squirm....

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    Re: Did you want Osama Bin Laden killed?

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    boy, this is really killing some of you hardcore members of the right... the seals got the job done, obama gave the green light for the operation..if this operation had went bad, you would be quick to point the finger at obama, and lay all blame at his feet...this is hillarious watching you guys squirm....
    So Obama said "Yes, Kill Osama".......

    ........lets give him credit.
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    Re: Did you want Osama Bin Laden killed?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I wanted him caught alive, interrogated, and punished (whether that be death or jail). Although I'm not against him being dead, I would have much rather preferred his capture over his death.
    Death ends things quickly, and doesn't allow us to show the world what he was. I would have prefered he stand trail, in public, extremist be damned.

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    Re: Did you want Osama Bin Laden killed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Badmutha View Post
    So Obama said "Yes, Kill Osama".......

    ........lets give him credit.
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    absolutely...'cause he would have taken all the grief had it gone bad..at least be honest and admit that much.

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    Re: Did you want Osama Bin Laden killed?

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    absolutely...'cause he would have taken all the grief had it gone bad..at least be honest and admit that much.
    Only if his name was Bush.......or if he had a (R) after his name.......
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