View Poll Results: Should have Pakistan's sovereign been a lesser concern for the US?

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    Re: Was Pakistan's sovereign a lesser concern?

    The Pakistani's (when i say "Pakistani's" i mean their government, no insult intended) are very two faced. I just DO NOT believe they are wholly committed to rooting out terrorism.
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    Re: Was Pakistan's sovereign a lesser concern?

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    The Pakistani's are very unhappy that the American's flew into their airspace, landed on their turf and shot up a building for 40 minutes (and then left behind a downed helicopter and a blazing mansion).

    There is no doubt much criticism will be made against America in the way of Pakistan, and the anti-American axis will probably just try and use it as an example of America's "imperialism" and "disregard for national sovereign".

    The question here is however, was Obama right in deeming a clear violation of Pakistani sovereign and international law as a lesser concern considering the importance and scope of the mission at hand?
    If Pakistan was all that worried about their sovereign then they would not be letting the US fly predator drones or conduct military operations in their country. I know if I was a Pakistani I would be wanting my government's head on a silver platter for allowing that kind of **** to go on. How many Americans would be in a uproar if our government allowed the British,Israel or any other country to fly armed predator drones and conduct military operations in our country? Of course Pakistan allowing us to basically **** on their sovereignty works out of for us seeing how one of the worlds' most evil SOB is now dead.
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    Re: Was Pakistan's sovereign a lesser concern?

    If anything Pakistan should be ashamed of themselves for not finding osama living in such an obvious place. They weren't the ones who had a hiding criminal plan a terrorist attack against them that killed thousands of people.
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    Re: Was Pakistan's sovereign a lesser concern?

    Pakistan is a failed corrupted state full of Islamists and other morons, no one should have any interest for supposed "sovereignty" of this Banana Republic. Obama is gradually getting more right, that's good.
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    Re: Was Pakistan's sovereign a lesser concern?

    Quote Originally Posted by Alfons View Post
    Pakistan is a failed corrupted state full of Islamists and other morons, no one should have any interest for supposed "sovereignty" of this Banana Republic. Obama is gradually getting more right, that's good.
    Head's up for Mr Bush too.
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    Re: Was Pakistan's sovereign a lesser concern?

    Quote Originally Posted by Alfons View Post
    Pakistan is a failed corrupted state full of Islamists and other morons, no one should have any interest for supposed "sovereignty" of this Banana Republic. Obama is gradually getting more right, that's good.
    Pakistan has nuclear weapons and thus anyone with half and brain will respect their sovereignty. Performing military operations on their soil is an act of war and invites violent retaliation.

    In this case, the Pakistani military is allowing such attacks, regardless of what they say. If they actually were against it, they wouldn't be allowing U.S. supply convoys into Afghanistan.

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    Re: Was Pakistan's sovereign a lesser concern?

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    Pakistan has nuclear weapons and thus anyone with half and brain will respect their sovereignty. Performing military operations on their soil is an act of war and invites violent retaliation.
    Only if the Pakistanis want their country turned into a green-glass parking lot.

    In this case, the Pakistani military is allowing such attacks, regardless of what they say. If they actually were against it, they wouldn't be allowing U.S. supply convoys into Afghanistan.
    We're paying Pakistan billions to allow US supply convoys into Afghanistan. And the Taliban/Al Qaeda are paying Pakistan millions for the route information that allows them to routinely destroy those US supply convoys. Pakistan doesn't give a damn about U.S. interests. They only care about taking bribes from both sides and letting both sides blow each other up.

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    Re: Was Pakistan's sovereign a lesser concern?

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    Re: Was Pakistan's sovereign a lesser concern?

    Only if the Pakistanis want their country turned into a green-glass parking lot.
    Doesn't matter. Committing acts of war against a nuclear power is an unacceptable risk. If Pakistan actually wants us out, the only sane thing to do is leave.

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    Re: Was Pakistan's sovereign a lesser concern?

    anytime we decide to shut down Pakistan's nuclear facilities, they get shut down. Pakistan can suck an egg.

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