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    Do you think the killing of OBL will accelerate our exit from Afghanistan?

    Do you think the killing of Osama bin Laden over the weekend will accelerate our exit from Afghanistan? Why or why not? How else do you think it might impact our Afghan policy?

    I personally think it will.

    - President Obama has been itching for a reason to get out of Afghanistan. He's been like the LBJ of his era, escalating a war he doesn't like. This provides one rationale for giving him an out.

    - It is becoming increasingly hard for us to extend our stay in Afghanistan, given Karzai's recent whiny rhetoric.

    - Our relationship with Pakistan is key. Right now, the Administration is pressing the Pakistani military/government on how OBL could have been living in a mansion just up the street from their military academy. I don't see the fallout from this confrontation ending very well.
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    Re: Do you think the killing of OBL will accelerate our exit from Afghanistan?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Do you think the killing of Osama bin Laden over the weekend will accelerate our exit from Afghanistan? Why or why not? How else do you think it might impact our Afghan policy?

    I personally think it will.

    - President Obama has been itching for a reason to get out of Afghanistan. He's been like the LBJ of his era, escalating a war he doesn't like. This provides one rationale for giving him an out.

    - It is becoming increasingly hard for us to extend our stay in Afghanistan, given Karzai's recent whiny rhetoric.

    - Our relationship with Pakistan is key. Right now, the Administration is pressing the Pakistani military/government on how OBL could have been living in a mansion just up the street from their military academy. I don't see the fallout from this confrontation ending very well.
    what we hear and see on the news is far different than what's happeing behind the scenes regarding pakistan and the u.s. i think pakistan is a very divided ountry that could go either way, and i don't envy the leadership. as far as afghanistan, obama might USE this as a withdrawal justification, but we all know this makes no actual difference in afghanistan or the ranks of AQ. the wot is a war with no end.

    that said, i say we get the hell out now of afghanistan now.

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    Re: Do you think the killing of OBL will accelerate our exit from Afghanistan?

    It should based on the premise we went in there to hunt OBL. That being said, I would prefer we stay to make sure Al Qaeda and the Taliban is destroyed.
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    Re: Do you think the killing of OBL will accelerate our exit from Afghanistan?

    No.

    Just because OBL is finally dead does not mean that we are done. This is a "War on Terror". This was not the "War on Osama Bin Laden".
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    Re: Do you think the killing of OBL will accelerate our exit from Afghanistan?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Do you think the killing of Osama bin Laden over the weekend will accelerate our exit from Afghanistan? Why or why not? How else do you think it might impact our Afghan policy?

    I personally think it will.

    - President Obama has been itching for a reason to get out of Afghanistan. He's been like the LBJ of his era, escalating a war he doesn't like. This provides one rationale for giving him an out.

    - It is becoming increasingly hard for us to extend our stay in Afghanistan, given Karzai's recent whiny rhetoric.

    - Our relationship with Pakistan is key. Right now, the Administration is pressing the Pakistani military/government on how OBL could have been living in a mansion just up the street from their military academy. I don't see the fallout from this confrontation ending very well.
    No, and if it does it's a mistake.

    Karzai's proven to be a disappointment, and doesn't hold much weight even though he's the leader of the land. We should put him on the ignore button until someone responsible takes the helm.

    Should we not have clean up that **** hole to our satisfaction, we could end up back where we started.

    Executing O-bin-Fish Stick isn't related to winning in Afghanistan. Wish it were, I'd love to see our troops come home victorious and having a sense they put things right.

    Executing O-bin-Fish Stick is a great victory against terrorists, sends a clear message, but I don't think the terrorists are quite ready to put down their arms or IED's and begin living peacefully and liberating women from their bee-keeper outfits any time soon.

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    Re: Do you think the killing of OBL will accelerate our exit from Afghanistan?

    Hopefully: Yes
    Realistically: No

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    Re: Do you think the killing of OBL will accelerate our exit from Afghanistan?

    It may lead to less nation building, but like Iraq, I doubt we will leave anytime soon. The problem and threat in Pakistan still exists. And our mission should be to stay vigilent on that threat and not building Afghanistan into a perfect government. Afghanistan is responsibel for Afghanistan.

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    Re: Do you think the killing of OBL will accelerate our exit from Afghanistan?

    I think it will accelerate it. Whether it SHOULD accelerate it or not is a different question.

    Also, I just think that the feelings of the electorate are such that staying in Afghanistan now will require more of an explanation than what the general electorate, as a whole, is willing to follow.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Do you think the killing of OBL will accelerate our exit from Afghanistan?

    All of you bring up very good points. I am still debating in my mind whether it SHOULD.

    But realistically, I think it WILL accelerate the timeline.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Do you think the killing of OBL will accelerate our exit from Afghanistan?

    Haha, terrorists love fish sticks.

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