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Should The Navy Seal That Killed Osama Ever Be Named?

Do you think that the name of the Navy Seal That Killed Osama should be released?

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Do you think that the name of the Navy Seal That Killed Osama should be released?

Do you feel that the names of the whole Navy SEAL Team 6 should be revealed?

I forgot the poll and no way to change it now. Sorry
 
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No, they just killed the biggest nutter in a group of nutters, I doubt they'd be safe if the nutters found out who they were. Of course, the bloke that killed him will be getting free beers for the rest of his life, and now has the greatest pick up line ever.
 
Not if they want to stay alive or for their families to be safe.
 
No, it's the only way to keep them, and their family safe, and I don't think they would like it too much. No one joins the Seals for the glory.

Oh, and you should be able to add a poll, it should be an option under "Thread Tools" at the top of your OP.
 
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Kali said:
Do you think that the name of the Navy Seal That Killed Osama should be released?

Do you feel that the names of the whole Navy SEAL Team 6 should be revealed?

I forgot the poll and no way to change it now. Sorry
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Excuse my French, but **** No and thank God that the government wouldn't even consider this as an option. You won't be getting my vote sister...
 
spud_meister said:
No, they just killed the biggest nutter in a group of nutters, I doubt they'd be safe if the nutters found out who they were. Of course, the bloke that killed him will be getting free beers for the rest of his life, and now has the greatest pick up line ever.
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Hey baby... I shot Osama Bin Laden in the head, want to have a drink? Is that the one? :lol:
 
Bodhisattva said:
Hey baby... I shot Osama Bin Laden in the head, want to have a drink? Is that the one? :lol:
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"I don't have a gun on me, but I can shoot you in the head too" ;)

Couldn't resist :lamo
 
The government should not release the name unless the SEAL gives permission. It is entirely up to him.
 
The names can't be released (do you really want to make the familes 'high value targets' for insane terrorists?) and they don't matter. The SEAL cannot make the decision alone; any other family member could object.

Any one of our seal teams (and some other specialized units) could have done the same. A unit got lucky and was assigned a big and successful mission. It doesn't matter which unit did it, they are all capable.

My friend and I made a deal in the army. If one of our units goes to fight and the other does not, we agreed to accept that it was mere luck and it did not make one necessarily a 'better soldier' than the other.
 
Kali said:
Do you think that the name of the Navy Seal That Killed Osama should be released?

Do you feel that the names of the whole Navy SEAL Team 6 should be revealed
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Basic question: why do you think that special forces never ever release the names of serving personnel?

If retired personnel choose to release their identity - that's up to them.
 
ecofarm said:
My friend and I made a deal in the army. If one of our units goes to fight and the other does not, we agreed to accept that it was mere luck and it did not make one necessarily a 'better soldier' than the other.
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I'm just curious, and I'm not trying to be a jerk, but after one or both of you came back from combat did you laugh at how naive you two were when you originally had that conversation?
 
We signed contracts during Gulf 1, 4 days after the 82nd went (Aug. 6).

In basic, we were told that the 82nd (our contracts were MOS 11x 82nd Abn) was in hand-to-hand with Saddam's elite (an inspiring lie, and I was very happy with myself not to feel any fear upon the announcement).

In reality, the air war started when I was in basic (delayed enlistment from Aug had me at Benning in Dec). The ground war started and ended while I was in jump shool. I arrived at my unit ~1 month after they got home. everyone had a CIB and a patch o their right shoulder. They all had 1000s in the bank, and we newbs (we still said cherry in those days) were not invited. Eventually, I earned the respect I needed and made E4 in ~26 months from dec. I had the choice to go to ranger school or take my ~60k scholarship (GI Bill/College Fund). I had spent ~3 years in the unit peacetime and there was no likely combat anytime soon. I had not joined for training and so I took the college money. I'm finishing my PhD now, ecology, agriculture, rural Kenya (I'm in 'suburbs' at the moment for electricity for computer modeling).

We made the deal after we got to the 82nd and the war was over (despite requests, we were assigned to different brigades, he 325 me 505) and it appeared only small-scale conflicts were likely. It could be my, his or the third brigade on DRF 1-3 during any given event. During blackhawk down, my unit was on DRF1. We unloaded uniforms, etc, at green ramp and loaded only live ammo. The jump was cancelled (rumor is after a pentagon go) and we didn't get on the birds. I wish we had.

18 hours, anywhere in the world, fight on arrival.


I missed combat. I tried. I would have been the first reinforcements to the 82nd in Gulf 1 and I was very close to Somalia. I spent a night talking after some ambush training in Arkansas with a ranger who was in Somalia.


Combat does not necessarily make one a better soldier (experience notwithstanding potential). Only some get a chance to shine. It's just luck. We all train and pray for war.
 

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It should be released in time.... In time...
 
ecofarm said:
We signed contracts during Gulf 1, 4 days after the 82nd went (Aug. 6).

In basic, we were told that the 82nd (our contracts were MOS 11x 82nd Abn) was in hand-to-hand with Saddam's elite (an inspiring lie, and I was very happy with myself not to feel any fear upon the announcement).

In reality, the air war started when I was in basic (delayed enlistment from Aug had me at Benning in Dec). The ground war started and ended while I was in jump shool. I arrived at my unit ~1 month after they got home. everyone had a CIB and a patch o their right shoulder. They all had 1000s in the bank, and we newbs (we still said cherry in those days) were not invited. Eventually, I earned the respect I needed and made E4 in ~26 months from dec. I had the choice to go to ranger school or take my ~60k scholarship (GI Bill/College Fund). I had spent ~3 years in the unit peacetime and there was no likely combat anytime soon. I had not joined for training and so I took the college money. I'm finishing my PhD now, ecology, agriculture, rural Kenya (I'm in 'suburbs' at the moment for electricity for computer modeling).

We made the deal after we got to the 82nd and the war was over (despite requests, we were assigned to different brigades, he 325 me 505) and it appeared only small-scale conflicts were likely. It could be my, his or the third brigade on DRF 1-3 during any given event. During blackhawk down, my unit was on DRF1. We unloaded uniforms, etc, at green ramp and loaded only live ammo. The jump was cancelled (rumor is after a pentagon go) and we didn't get on the birds. I wish we had.

18 hours, anywhere in the world, fight on arrival.


I missed combat. I tried. I would have been the first reinforcements to the 82nd in Gulf 1 and I was very close to Somalia. I spent a night talking after some ambush training in Arkansas with a ranger who was in Somalia.


Combat does not necessarily make one a better soldier (experience notwithstanding potential). Only some get a chance to shine. It's just luck. We all train and pray for war.
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NO we didn't!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Bodhisattva said:
Hey baby... I shot Osama Bin Laden in the head, want to have a drink? Is that the one? :lol:
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be careful, man.

I got slapped in the face last night when I tried to use that one.
 
It should be released sometime. "Ever" is a very long time.

There's no hurry and quite a number of reasons to delay releasing the names. But eventually the names will all be released. Idk, the details on when that info becomes declassified, but it will one day be declassified.
 
No.

Releasing the name of the "assassian" (because that's how OBL's death will be viewed in the Muslim world now that it's come out that he was unarmed, yet shot X2 by US Special Forces) will only place his life and that of his family in jeapordy.

You keep that intel more secret that "Who killed Jimmy Hoffa?", or "Were there really 2 shooters in the assasination of JFK?".
 
NO, it is unnecessary information, and it seems it runs counter to much of what the SEALS are about. Professional, team based, non glory seeking, get the job done bad asses specializing in covert operations.

The specific level of knowledge regarding who pulled the trigger on the fatal shot should remain as it is currently: A member of a non specified team of SEALS who drew the orders and then went in and did their job.
 
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Kali said:
Do you think that the name of the Navy Seal That Killed Osama should be released?

Do you feel that the names of the whole Navy SEAL Team 6 should be revealed?

I forgot the poll and no way to change it now. Sorry
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I'd thought about this not long after the announcement and the answer is no... not now, not ever. These folks lives would be changed for the worse, and if revealed later, their graves would be desecrated.

Let them live in peace knowing they did humanity a tremendous service with their professionalism, courage and bravery. Thanks guys... I think you know how America feels about you. You're the best of the best.

I state this based on a story I remember about an American hero, and their family could not reveal his burial plot or something of that kind. Unfortunately the details escape me at the moment (pissed off icon).

Now, should they reveal this info themselves, and are permitted to, that is another story, but I can't see any of them doing it.

Can you imagine one of the SEALS coming home after having taken out Osama... Hi Honey, how were your maneuvers? Oh, OK... we were in NC having war games, training a bunch of grunts (smiles and whistles as he heads to the fridge for a beer).

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They already released 'the name'...SEAL Team 6. That is all that is ever needed or should be given.
 
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ecofarm said:
We signed contracts during Gulf 1, 4 days after the 82nd went (Aug. 6).

In basic, we were told that the 82nd (our contracts were MOS 11x 82nd Abn) was in hand-to-hand with Saddam's elite (an inspiring lie, and I was very happy with myself not to feel any fear upon the announcement).

In reality, the air war started when I was in basic (delayed enlistment from Aug had me at Benning in Dec). The ground war started and ended while I was in jump shool. I arrived at my unit ~1 month after they got home. everyone had a CIB and a patch o their right shoulder. They all had 1000s in the bank, and we newbs (we still said cherry in those days) were not invited. Eventually, I earned the respect I needed and made E4 in ~26 months from dec. I had the choice to go to ranger school or take my ~60k scholarship (GI Bill/College Fund). I had spent ~3 years in the unit peacetime and there was no likely combat anytime soon. I had not joined for training and so I took the college money. I'm finishing my PhD now, ecology, agriculture, rural Kenya (I'm in 'suburbs' at the moment for electricity for computer modeling).

We made the deal after we got to the 82nd and the war was over (despite requests, we were assigned to different brigades, he 325 me 505) and it appeared only small-scale conflicts were likely. It could be my, his or the third brigade on DRF 1-3 during any given event. During blackhawk down, my unit was on DRF1. We unloaded uniforms, etc, at green ramp and loaded only live ammo. The jump was cancelled (rumor is after a pentagon go) and we didn't get on the birds. I wish we had.

18 hours, anywhere in the world, fight on arrival.


I missed combat. I tried. I would have been the first reinforcements to the 82nd in Gulf 1 and I was very close to Somalia. I spent a night talking after some ambush training in Arkansas with a ranger who was in Somalia.


Combat does not necessarily make one a better soldier (experience notwithstanding potential). Only some get a chance to shine. It's just luck. We all train and pray for war.
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Thats all well and good, but it doesn't answer my question.
 
No. Secrecy is best.
 
Kali said:
Do you think that the name of the Navy Seal That Killed Osama should be released?

Do you feel that the names of the whole Navy SEAL Team 6 should be revealed?

I forgot the poll and no way to change it now. Sorry
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Nah, let him enjoy his life as a private hero. Salman Rushdie had a hit put on him, and that was just for using Mohammad in a book.
 
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