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    Re: Should The Navy Seal That Killed Osama Ever Be Named?

    Quote Originally Posted by soccerboy22 View Post
    I am saying yes just to be different.
    But what do you really think?
    ~Following My Own Flow~

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    Re: Should The Navy Seal That Killed Osama Ever Be Named?

    Hell no !
    It was a team effort, individual accomplishments do not matter.
    OBL was nothing more than a "high ranking" enemy combatant...
    The Navy Seals did what was necessary.
    I now hope that its over and our world can return to building and peace.

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    Re: Should The Navy Seal That Killed Osama Ever Be Named?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    But what do you really think?
    No. The only way it should be released is if he says I understand the risk that may come upon my family and I by releasing my name, but I still want to do it anyways.

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    Re: Should The Navy Seal That Killed Osama Ever Be Named?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    It does answer your question. My little story is complete. He didn't see combat either.



    That's nice, but you were a squid (no offence). We were elite infantry - shock troops. We spent weeks and months in the field training to fight. Ambush, move, ambush, move... all night long. We were cold, hungry and tired for days at a time as we honed our killing skills. We were not interested in wasting government money and we were anxious to put our hard training to use. Each time we got "called out", we hoped it was a real mission. Maybe you liked training and training with no real action because you just pushed buttons that could kill many civilians, but we wanted to use the very hard work we put in - up close and personal. If anyone in my unit did not want to fight - for real, they were invited to leave.

    Our cadance went like this: "1, 2, 3, 4! Somebody anybody start a war!"


    ps. When I say "we" I mean troops, not REMFs.
    Since you apparently want to play this little game I'll point out a couple of things to you.
    One. Brigades from Divisions in the Rapid Deployment Force at that time (10th Mountain, 7th Light Infantry, 24th Mech, 82nd Airborne) were assigned RDF status, not DRF status. Ask me how I know that

    Two. You were not a shock trooper. The vanguard of the US military was, is, and always will be the Marine Corps. Anyone who ever served knows this. In fact, the mission of American paratroopers is to drop into areas where there is not heavy combat in order to secure strategic objectives.

    RDF forces served in many low intensity conflicts all around the world, most of which the public has never heard about. If you were in the 82nd for any amount of time and never "got" to go, it's probably because your commander deemed you unfit and thought that you would be a danger to your fellow soldiers.

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    Re: Should The Navy Seal That Killed Osama Ever Be Named?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    It does answer your question. My little story is complete. He didn't see combat either.



    That's nice, but you were a squid (no offence). We were elite infantry - shock troops. We spent weeks and months in the field training to fight. Ambush, move, ambush, move... all night long. We were cold, hungry and tired for days at a time as we honed our killing skills. We were not interested in wasting government money and we were anxious to put our hard training to use. Each time we got "called out", we hoped it was a real mission. Maybe you liked training and training with no real action because you just pushed buttons that could kill many civilians, but we wanted to use the very hard work we put in - up close and personal. If anyone in my unit did not want to fight - for real, they were invited to leave.

    Our cadance went like this: "1, 2, 3, 4! Somebody anybody start a war!"


    ps. When I say "we" I mean troops, not REMFs.
    Yes, admitting you were brainwashed is a solid first step in your cure. The defense of the United States and it's Constitution is most successfully accomplished if the scary weapons and the scary people are brandished to accomplish policy goals, and using those tools means the safety of the United States is at greater risk.

    You have to someday recognize that men are turned into killing machines and trained incessantly to prevent them from thinking.

    The advantage to being an elite corps of intellectual operators is that the government cannot afford to turn our brains off. When the Mayor or his shipmates turned the valves and pushed the buttons, they were always aware of the larger picture. It was never mindless fun and games. They had, each and everyone of them, the knowledge that their actions bore upon the safety of a billion dollar asset and the safety of the whole crew, not just themselves, and that breaking something at the wrong time, something as simple as main seawater pump, could cost a turbine that could cost a ship the could cost a battle that could lose the war.

    The Mayor and his shipmates never had the luxury of not using their brains, and they clearly punished those who came amongst them who didn't use theirs. One example was the gung-ho new recruit who just had to prove he was tough enough to be accepted in the crew. The auxiliarymen proposed a time-honored test to him. He was to put his thumb in a bench vise and the A-ganger would crank the handle until he said "stop". And he was told only the toughest and meanest of men, the REAL MEN, would dare to put both their thumbs in at the same time. Being a REAL MAN, he put both thumbs in the vise and the shipmate cranked away, squeezing the REAL MAN's thumbs. And, as agreed, but A-gangers are honest amiable, if dirty, folk, he stopped turning the handle when the REAL MAN said "stop".

    Then he walked away, leaving the REAL MAN standing with both thumbs clamped firmly to the bench.

    REAL MEN aren't very impressive, when you start getting down to what's important.

    In another instance, a tesosterone monkey smarted off to a different auxiliaryman, and said "blow me". Jody told him he didn't have the balls to whip it out in the crew's mess. The recruit didnt have the sense not to. Jody latched onto the offending member's member and took him on a whirlwind tour of the forward compartment, up ladders, and down, through the Control Room for a lightning visit with the OOD, down to the machinery room for a fast tour of the diesel, and a rapid tour of the torpedoes sleeping on their skids before ending the tour back at the breakfast table.

    REAL MEN aren't afraid of anything, and that is often handy for people who want tools.

    Real men know when to think twice and learn to know when they're being played.

    The Mayor has enormous respect for the abilities of the trigger pulling bullet chewing classes, look at the awesome job they did on Tarawa and Iwo Jima.

    The nation's peace has been kept these last six decades because the other warriors, the brainiacs, were using their brains and were most definitely unwilling to have a war.

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    Re: Should The Navy Seal That Killed Osama Ever Be Named?

    Quote Originally Posted by Centrehalf View Post
    RDF forces served in many low intensity conflicts all around the world, most of which the public has never heard about. If you were in the 82nd for any amount of time and never "got" to go, it's probably because your commander deemed you unfit and thought that you would be a danger to your fellow soldiers.
    Thank you.

    The Mayor will point out the two persons starring in the incidents he described were subsequently transferred from the ship as being unsuitable to the standards of Submarine Squadron Five. The Navy had ships on the surface for those who didn't measure up to submarine duty.

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    Re: Should The Navy Seal That Killed Osama Ever Be Named?

    Mayor, why I gotta be a tool?


    If you were in the 82nd for any amount of time and never "got" to go, it's probably because your commander deemed you unfit and thought that you would be a danger to your fellow soldiers.
    91-94, peacetime

    As noted, I volunteered during war and it was over before my training was finished.
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    Re: Should The Navy Seal That Killed Osama Ever Be Named?

    Quote Originally Posted by Centrehalf View Post
    Since you apparently want to play this little game I'll point out a couple of things to you.
    One. Brigades from Divisions in the Rapid Deployment Force at that time (10th Mountain, 7th Light Infantry, 24th Mech, 82nd Airborne) were assigned RDF status, not DRF status. Ask me how I know that
    I give a crap what you "know". We had DRF 1-9, each third being a different general status. When on DRF 1 we had 2 hours (1?) to be in formation after battalian was notified of the call-out; we were not permitted to go more than ~30miles from base when on DRF1.
    Two. You were not a shock trooper. The vanguard of the US military was, is, and always will be the Marine Corps. Anyone who ever served knows this. In fact, the mission of American paratroopers is to drop into areas where there is not heavy combat in order to secure strategic objectives.
    Paratroops are a shock troop. High casualities are expected. Paratroops specialize in taking airports in enemy territory, leg marines are not easy to get to such a place. We are the vanguard. Friendly birds land after we've secured the strip and others carry on the mission.

    From the Paratrooper's Creed (Available at the 82nd Airborne's website):

    "I realize that a parachutist is not merely a soldier who arrives by parachute to fight, but is an elite shock trooper and that his country expects him..."

    RDF forces served in many low intensity conflicts all around the world, most of which the public has never heard about. If you were in the 82nd for any amount of time and never "got" to go, it's probably because your commander deemed you unfit and thought that you would be a danger to your fellow soldiers.
    We had DRF. My bat was DRF1 for Somalia (the other bats of the reg being DRF 2 and 3). We also had a Thanksgiving dinner are our platoon sgts house because of heightened DRF1 status, one year.


    I don't know what "game" you are on about, I was at Bragg (MOS 11H) from mid 91 to mid 94.
    Last edited by ecofarm; 05-06-11 at 04:05 AM.

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