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Thread: Who should be added to Mount Rushmore?

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    Re: Who should be added to Mount Rushmore?

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    Mount Rushmore - Facts About Mount Rushmore

    It was intended to be a tourist attraction, but I am not sure how that is working out for the state. I wouldn't want to go there just to see Mount Rushmore...
    That's not the only thing in SD. Custer State Park is beautiful and a great place to go camping, fishing, hiking, etc. They have numerous museums and a great train ride that takes you from one town to another. So you can start in Hill City (perhaps have a hotel there) and ride the train to Keystone to shop or go to museums. Then catch the train when you're done back to your hotel. I love it there.


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    Re: Who should be added to Mount Rushmore?

    Same...no changes. What purpose would it serve? Its like painting in Waldo behind the Mona Lisa.

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    Re: Who should be added to Mount Rushmore?

    I'm not anti-Ike, but what exactly makes Eisenhower so special?
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Who should be added to Mount Rushmore?

    By the way, they have a mock old west cowboy shootout in Hill City every night.


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    Re: Who should be added to Mount Rushmore?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Same...no changes. What purpose would it serve? Its like painting in Waldo behind the Mona Lisa.
    Now that would be cool.
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    Re: Who should be added to Mount Rushmore?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    I'm not anti-Ike, but what exactly makes Eisenhower so special?
    He was a pretty good president, not really partisan, more of a "maintain" things rather than the highly partisan "bold changes" type of platform.
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    Re: Who should be added to Mount Rushmore?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    He was a pretty good president, not really partisan, more of a "maintain" things rather than the highly partisan "bold changes" type of platform.
    I agree; I think he was a good president, not a bad one but not "great" either. However I think the Presidents that qualify as "great," including the ones that are already enshrined on Mt. Rushmore, would likely fail your "bold changes" criteria.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Who should be added to Mount Rushmore?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    I agree; I think he was a good president, not a bad one but not "great" either. However I think the Presidents that qualify as "great," including the ones that are already enshrined on Mt. Rushmore, would likely fail your "bold changes" criteria.
    Most likely.

    I typically view the greatest presidents as those who were not interested in taking a highly partisan platform of changing things (supposedly) for the better.

    Grover Cleveland was a great president, but doesn't get much acclaim.
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    Re: Who should be added to Mount Rushmore?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Most likely.

    I typically view the greatest presidents as those who were not interested in taking a highly partisan platform of changing things (supposedly) for the better.

    Grover Cleveland was a great president, but doesn't get much acclaim.
    Interesting take.

    Leaders who maintain the status guo generally aren't seen as "great."
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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    Re: Who should be added to Mount Rushmore?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Interesting take.

    Leaders who maintain the status guo generally aren't seen as "great."
    It's just my "Austrian" perspective.
    I detest top down "fixes."

    I prefer organic measures of solving problems.
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