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    Re: Is it OK for Whites to Bash Blacks for Comedy Purposes?

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    Right. But let's say your poor and want a job. Better to be black or white? White.



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    My friend tells me all the time that because her name is white, she always getting calls for a job... but because she doesn't "talk white" they hardly ever call her back.

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    Re: Is it OK for Whites to Bash Blacks for Comedy Purposes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Private poll results - It's more likely that different people voted in different polls.
    I know... It's a valid point, but the results still look really skewed because in this poll about 95% say it's ok to bash black people for comedy purposes, and in the other poll 70% said it was ok to bash whites... I just think it's interesting. It would have more validity if the polls were not private. I agree.

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    Re: Is it OK for Whites to Bash Blacks for Comedy Purposes?

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    My friend tells me all the time that because her name is white, she always getting calls for a job... but because she doesn't "talk white" they hardly ever call her back.
    She may have a point. Institutional racism is a bitch.

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    Re: Is it OK for Whites to Bash Blacks for Comedy Purposes?

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    My friend tells me all the time that because her name is white, she always getting calls for a job... but because she doesn't "talk white" they hardly ever call her back.
    She's just assuming they call her more than they call others - she has no basis for it.
    She is also assuming that 'how' she talked (as in: an accent) is the reason why they don't call her back - perhaps it's *what* she says that drives them away.

    It's the same as women *assuming* that they were denied a job or a promotion because of their height, gender or motherhood when often, upon investigation, it's found to be things like *lack* of experience, an *inability* to get along with others and a *bad* work ethic. . . and so on. . . nothing related to gender.

    And if someone doesn't hire you because of race or gender then it wouldn't have ben a good idea to be hired there anyway. Maybe she should reconsider where she applies and the words she uses over the phone.

    I didn't hire people who mumbled or spoke lazily over the phone or who could not follow instructions when filling out the application very well - and wouldn't you know, women were the worst at these things. Women in general - not even remotely race related - tend to drone on and on when asked questions and laugh sporatically when a laugh is not appropriate.

    I hardly ever hired women - they just aren't work-compatible . .. especially southern women. It's a job interview, not the love connection. but there was the occasional "the the point" woman and they were often ideal workers for the job - no fluffy junk.

    I also had a lot of problems with 'girly girls' (who tend to do the extra laughing) not taking their jobs seriously, not getting work done on time, and complaining about the nature of the work (like cleaning the bathrooms adn so on) - I began to associate a talky, laughing demeanor with a soon-to-be-refusal to do the job they applied for. I'm sure some good employees were grouped with the bad ones - but I had to deal with too many bad ones to want to take chances.
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    Re: Is it OK for Whites to Bash Blacks for Comedy Purposes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    She's just assuming they call her more than they call others - she has no basis for it.
    She is also assuming that 'how' she talked (as in: an accent) is the reason why they don't call her back - perhaps it's *what* she says that drives them away.

    It's the same as women *assuming* that they were denied a job or a promotion because of their height, gender or motherhood when often, upon investigation, it's found to be things like *lack* of experience, an *inability* to get along with others and a bad work ethic. . . and so on.
    I gotta agree with AS here. Although she may be entirely correct, she doesn't know the real reason why it happens. Just like some white folks complain that a less-qualified black man got a job over them because of affirmative action. Nine times out of ten, they don't know the real process the decision-makers went through.
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    Re: Is it OK for Whites to Bash Blacks for Comedy Purposes?

    Yea, there is a certain "professionalism" that a lot of hirers are looking for, and i think a lot of people just don't get that.

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    Re: Is it OK for Whites to Bash Blacks for Comedy Purposes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    She's just assuming they call her more than they call others - she has no basis for it.
    She is also assuming that 'how' she talked (as in: an accent) is the reason why they don't call her back - perhaps it's *what* she says that drives them away.

    It's the same as women *assuming* that they were denied a job or a promotion because of their height, gender or motherhood when often, upon investigation, it's found to be things like *lack* of experience, an *inability* to get along with others and a *bad* work ethic. . . and so on. . . nothing related to gender.

    And if someone doesn't hire you because of race or gender then it wouldn't have ben a good idea to be hired there anyway. Maybe she should reconsider where she applies and the words she uses over the phone.

    I didn't hire people who mumbled or spoke lazily over the phone or who could not follow instructions when filling out the application very well - and wouldn't you know, women were the worst at these things. Women in general - not even remotely race related - tend to drone on and on when asked questions and laugh sporatically when a laugh is not appropriate.

    I hardly ever hired women - they just aren't work-compatible . .. especially southern women. It's a job interview, not the love connection. but there was the occasional "the the point" woman and they were often ideal workers for the job - no fluffy junk.

    I also had a lot of problems with 'girly girls' (who tend to do the extra laughing) not taking their jobs seriously, not getting work done on time, and complaining about the nature of the work (like cleaning the bathrooms adn so on) - I began to associate a talky, laughing demeanor with a soon-to-be-refusal to do the job they applied for. I'm sure some good employees were grouped with the bad ones - but I had to deal with too many bad ones to want to take chances.
    out of curiosity, what was your occupation and what were the jobs these women were applying for?
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    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Is it OK for Whites to Bash Blacks for Comedy Purposes?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    I gotta agree with AS here. Although she may be entirely correct, she doesn't know the real reason why it happens. Just like some white folks complain that a less-qualified black man got a job over them because of affirmative action. Nine times out of ten, they don't know the real process the decision-makers went through.
    Exactly - it goes both ways.

    I've heard *so many times* that "he was only hired because of affirmative action" and stuff like that - I've heard that MORE than anything. Employees argued that WITH me in my office - GEESH! My line was always something like, "If you don't like my business decision that I have made for the better of our company then I can find you employment elsewhere."
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    Re: Is it OK for Whites to Bash Blacks for Comedy Purposes?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    out of curiosity, what was your occupation and what were the jobs these women were applying for?
    Cashiering positions in a few different stores (A hobby shop, a movie theater - etc)

    I think it was more related to age: young teens were pippy, had energy, felt super awesome, lived at home, didn't have to take things too seriously because they didn't have kids - if they had a solid education they weren't likely to apply for base-wage positions, etc. They simply had less on the line.

    Older women (and men) were more likely to have kids, be more serious, more decated at their work and more willing to do the dirty work when it needed to get done. . . etc. the issues I screened for went away with maturity.

    The guys had their own set of issues - also related to age. Teen males seemed to *not hear* a lot of instruction and information on the job. They were more likely to forget to complete a task because "I didn't hear you, sorry" . . . So pre-screening for males the request to "repeat that, please" in an interview or over the phone more than once or without probable cause would be a sign that he didn't have his listening-ears on. . . and would likely be a continual problem.

    So - I'd ask questions in interviews about future goals, money management, financial knowledge. I didn't expect anyone to have life squared away - but I wanted people who *needed* to work beyond 'because my Dad said I had to get a job or move out.' Overall - Every single employee I fired seemed less concerned about doing the necessary things to keep their job because they felt they could easily just get another one. . . so they were overall less dedicated.

    Teens, however, who did live on their own were more responsible because life circumstances led them to that early on.

    However - you can't come straight out and ask "do you have kids" and "do you live at home with your parents" - you have to try to devise that from different questions and answers.
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    Re: Is it OK for Whites to Bash Blacks for Comedy Purposes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    I'm sure some good employees were grouped with the bad ones - but I had to deal with too many bad ones to want to take chances.
    And here we are, at the crux of the problem.

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