View Poll Results: What Should the Government Focus On, Raising Revenue or Tax Rates?

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    Re: Is Raising Revenue More Important Than Raising Tax Rates?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    A tax rate too low to fund a social safety net is dangerous business.
    true-when its too low on those who vote for politicians who want to expand the social safety net in order to create more wards of the state



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    Re: Is Raising Revenue More Important Than Raising Tax Rates?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    true-when its too low on those who vote for politicians who want to expand the social safety net in order to create more wards of the state
    That and once you lose the mechanisms that create and sustain the middle class, the country's economy will shrink, which also harms the interests of every, poor and rich alike.

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    Re: Is Raising Revenue More Important Than Raising Tax Rates?

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    The past three years of massive inflows into US securities suggest that ther aren't capital projects worthy of capital investment when accounting for risk. Therefore, your point appears to be moot. Lowering rates when there isn't viable projects to invest in will not increase investment or alternatively may cause significent bubbles.

    As for "too much" that is merely your opinion. Same for tax rates, which by the way, are historically low.
    what was the income tax rate for say the first 150 years of our country's history



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    Re: Is Raising Revenue More Important Than Raising Tax Rates?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    That and once you lose the mechanisms that create and sustain the middle class, the country's economy will shrink, which also harms the interests of every, poor and rich alike.

    bs-the scheme to increase addicts does not strengthen the middle class-it strengthens dem politicians which of course is the main reason for subsidizing people being addicted to entitlements



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    Re: Is Raising Revenue More Important Than Raising Tax Rates?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    bs-the scheme to increase addicts does not strengthen the middle class-it strengthens dem politicians which of course is the main reason for subsidizing people being addicted to entitlements


    Yeah, fair working conditions, a safety net, education, etc only helps politicians.

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    Re: Is Raising Revenue More Important Than Raising Tax Rates?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    Obviously.
    Logical
    But to do this, the tax rates on the wealthy must be increased.
    Then waste must be cut back.
    One example is the 500 school districts in PA, when only 100 are necessary.
    Another is 435 Representatives when only several hundred are necessary.
    One more - wars - very wasteful, this must stop.
    Another - fear and ignorance - far too much of this waste in our people.
    How about more truth and less advertising - another area of reform.

    why should the rich pay more when they carry more of the load now than at any time in the last 70 years (ie the start of the welfare state). I understand your politics-soaking the rich without making the majority pay any more wins votes. but is screws up the country



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    Re: Is Raising Revenue More Important Than Raising Tax Rates?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    I'd like to see one shred, one iota of absolute evidence that tax cuts on the wealthy lead to a better economy for the masses..
    I know it leads to a "better economy" for the wealthy and the masses receive whatever falls thru the cracks.
    IMO, a disgusting way to treat the people, if one can visualize this scenario.
    who cares-the rich don't exist to fund and subsidize the ability of the masses to demand more and more that they refuse to pay for



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    Re: Is Raising Revenue More Important Than Raising Tax Rates?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post


    Yeah, fair working conditions, a safety net, education, etc only helps politicians.
    fair working conditions are not welfare. what helps politicians is promising the masses all sorts of goodies and not making the masses have to pay for it

    its amazing that you and others pretend this evil of a progressive tax system doesn't exist



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    Re: Is Raising Revenue More Important Than Raising Tax Rates?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Which really doesn't prove anything. I will believe you when you present a fuller picture instead of cherry picking data.
    HAH. you just keep moving those goal posts . i tell you what, when you can demonstrate that lower tax brackets moved in such a way as to counteract the loss of revenue coming from the lowering of the top tax rates, then you'll have something. but unfortunately, those tax rates all moved together - taxes were cut across the board, and yet revenue continued at a rough 18.5% of GDP.

    I doubt that these people can really live long term away from the businesses they run and what not, so its no biggie.
    then you are mistaken. 1. they only need to spend 1/2 the year + 1 day at their residence of record, be it a low tax state or country and 2. businesses can move too. you make it worth their while, they will organize off-shore or just go there. i'm telling you man, trying to chase down and screw these people isn't just immoral, it's exceedingly unlikely to be successful.

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    Re: Is Raising Revenue More Important Than Raising Tax Rates?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    who cares-the rich don't exist to fund and subsidize the ability of the masses to demand more and more that they refuse to pay for

    In this country the aristocracy of wealth became that because of the middle class.

    If there was nobody to buy gas Rockefeller would just be another pool hall gambler.

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