View Poll Results: What Should the Government Focus On, Raising Revenue or Tax Rates?

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    Re: Is Raising Revenue More Important Than Raising Tax Rates?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The fact that only 9 people voted in the poll should be a clue that people find the poll poorly constructed, not that the results are in any way meaningful.
    Its one of those gotcha polls that puts people into a false choice.

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    Re: Is Raising Revenue More Important Than Raising Tax Rates?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Its one of those gotcha polls that puts people into a false choice.
    People make dishonest or poorly designed polls? Who'd a thunk it?
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    Re: Is Raising Revenue More Important Than Raising Tax Rates?

    Obviously.
    Logical
    But to do this, the tax rates on the wealthy must be increased.
    Then waste must be cut back.
    One example is the 500 school districts in PA, when only 100 are necessary.
    Another is 435 Representatives when only several hundred are necessary.
    One more - wars - very wasteful, this must stop.
    Another - fear and ignorance - far too much of this waste in our people.
    How about more truth and less advertising - another area of reform.

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    Re: Is Raising Revenue More Important Than Raising Tax Rates?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    People make dishonest or poorly designed polls? Who'd a thunk it?
    That seems to be the American way.

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    Re: Is Raising Revenue More Important Than Raising Tax Rates?

    Quote Originally Posted by Badmutha View Post
    LOL......The C/C rebuttle.......seems to be a favorite among every liberal on this site.

    .....of course the fact that virtually every major tax cut in history has resulted in a MASSIVE GROWTH IN REVENUE.....will of course have to be racked up as COINCIDENCE.



    Providing you with 10,000 examples of periods where the only material change was tax rates....where lower tax rates resulted in more revenue 99% of the time.......notarized by Obama......undersigned by God........

    .....would only yield a growth in denial from you and every liberal out there.
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    I'd like to see one shred, one iota of absolute evidence that tax cuts on the wealthy lead to a better economy for the masses..
    I know it leads to a "better economy" for the wealthy and the masses receive whatever falls thru the cracks.
    IMO, a disgusting way to treat the people, if one can visualize this scenario.

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    Re: Is Raising Revenue More Important Than Raising Tax Rates?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    How does the government raise revenue without raising taxes? Unless you're saying, "Grow ourselves out of this mess....?"

    No matter how much money we give those clowns in Washington, they will continue spending us broke. No new taxes. Cut spending. Oh, okay, maybe increase taxes on "really rich." They've got no voice. Let's git 'em!
    During the Clinton years, the tax rates where fair and effective,IMO.
    The wrong things were done during the Republican years..
    The balance of trade deficits ?
    Our education system - hardly the world's best...
    What I favor are programs that favor the American masses - the American people - the the wealthy exist on what ever is left over...
    Waste must be cut.
    Do we need 500 school districts in PA when only 100 will do ?
    And this is just one example.
    Both the private and public sectors are awash in waste.
    This is due to fear and ignorance.
    People are afraid to speak and think (whistle-blowers),(being fired from their jobs).

    No energy program (proposed by James Earl Carter).

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    Re: Is Raising Revenue More Important Than Raising Tax Rates?

    If people were being hired in the private sector then revenues would be going up.

    If new businesses were starting up then revenues would be going up.

    If useless regulations were being eliminated not only would revenues be going up but expenditures would be going down.

    Or, we can take the Earthworm woute. Bury our heads in the sand, attack those we're jealous of, and watch it all go to hell.

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    Re: Is Raising Revenue More Important Than Raising Tax Rates?

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Tax strategy raising/lowering is how Gov raises revenue.
    if by "raising" you mean "increasing" then you are absolutely incorrect. increasing GDP increases revenue. tax rate increases? not so much.

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    Re: Is Raising Revenue More Important Than Raising Tax Rates?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    You are aware that your graph doesn't show what you claim right? All I see there is top marginal tax rate, which leaves out crucial information such as the % of people paying that tax rate, the % of people paying other tax rates, total collections vs expected collections, etc.
    all those rates came down when the top ones did. the fact that revenue consistently comes in at around 18.5% of GDP irrespective of tax rates remains.

    In terms of what loop holes to close, that would be the ability to hide money in a foreign country.
    no owning things outside the US!!! you realize this is a game that only ends in tyranny?

    If a country wants to be a tax haven, then we tax the hell out of any money that comes back into american soil, even if it comes in indirectly. Sure, theoretically, people could move out of the country, but I doubt they would.
    why not? you are making it worth hundreds of thousands of dollars - millions - for them to do so. such individuals have already demonstrated a willingness to move from one state to another over this issue - you think they will be suffering in Malta?

    once upon a time you could actually kill the golden goose. now we can only make it fly away. either way the result for us is the same - no more eggs.

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    Re: Is Raising Revenue More Important Than Raising Tax Rates?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    all those rates came down when the top ones did. the fact that revenue consistently comes in at around 18.5% of GDP irrespective of tax rates remains.
    Which really doesn't prove anything. I will believe you when you present a fuller picture instead of cherry picking data.

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    no owning things outside the US!!! you realize this is a game that only ends in tyranny?

    why not? you are making it worth hundreds of thousands of dollars - millions - for them to do so. such individuals have already demonstrated a willingness to move from one state to another over this issue - you think they will be suffering in Malta?

    once upon a time you could actually kill the golden goose. now we can only make it fly away. either way the result for us is the same - no more eggs.
    I doubt that these people can really live long term away from the businesses they run and what not, so its no biggie.

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