View Poll Results: What Should the Government Focus On, Raising Revenue or Tax Rates?

Voters
28. You may not vote on this poll
  • Revenues

    25 89.29%
  • Tax Rate

    3 10.71%
Page 2 of 18 FirstFirst 123412 ... LastLast
Results 11 to 20 of 172

Thread: Is Raising Revenue More Important Than Raising Tax Rates?

  1. #11
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Last Seen
    07-25-13 @ 08:55 AM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    1,951

    Re: Is Raising Revenue More Important Than Raising Tax Rates?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Ok, then close the loopholes. Do we give up on the idea of private property and alarm systems because people who break and enter get more sophisticated in their methods over time? Nope, we build better systems.
    You dont get it........Free people vote with their feet........and you cannot claim to be free when Government is seizing 30-50% of your life.

    What took place in the state of Oregon is taking place on a nationwide scale.......the poor and majority of the middle class are stuck on the plantation.......the rich and those with the ability to leave......gravitate towards freedom. (See: The Mass Exodus of US Businesses w/Jobs and The Democrat Whip).

    Rasie tax rates, close the loopholes, send men with guns to their doors.........when it doesnt result in More Revenue.......its time to look at other ways.
    .
    .
    .
    .

  2. #12
    Banned
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Location
    Los Angeles
    Last Seen
    01-18-13 @ 07:26 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    1,631

    Re: Is Raising Revenue More Important Than Raising Tax Rates?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Ok, then close the loopholes. Do we give up on the idea of private property
    That's what the socialists want.

    But, once the government owns 100% of everything, what revenues will it have the following year?

  3. #13
    Doesn't go below juicy
    tacomancer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Cleveland
    Last Seen
    05-20-16 @ 02:42 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    31,781

    Re: Is Raising Revenue More Important Than Raising Tax Rates?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mayor Snorkum View Post
    That's what the socialists want.

    But, once the government owns 100% of everything, what revenues will it have the following year?
    Its pretty bad when you have to cut off part of my post in order to try and make a point.

    Quote Originally Posted by Badmutha View Post
    You dont get it........Free people vote with their feet........and you cannot claim to be free when Government is seizing 30-50% of your life.

    What took place in the state of Oregon is taking place on a nationwide scale.......the poor and majority of the middle class are stuck on the plantation.......the rich and those with the ability to leave......gravitate towards freedom. (See: The Mass Exodus of US Businesses w/Jobs and The Democrat Whip).

    Rasie tax rates, close the loopholes, send men with guns to their doors.........when it doesnt result in More Revenue.......its time to look at other ways.
    .
    .
    .
    .
    If people move then there is nothing a local government can do. Practical limitations will always exist. However, there is a balance for those with a higher income as well, so its a wash.
    Last edited by tacomancer; 05-01-11 at 05:03 PM.

  4. #14
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Last Seen
    07-25-13 @ 08:55 AM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    1,951

    Re: Is Raising Revenue More Important Than Raising Tax Rates?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Its pretty bad when you have to cut off part of my post in order to try and make a point.



    If people move then there is nothing a local government can do. Practical limitations will always exist. However, there is a balance for those with a higher income as well, so its a wash.
    Why would people want to leave The Highest State Tax Rate or The Highest City Tax Rate or The Highest Corporate Tax Rate?

    Considering the respective governments set those Highest Tax Rates........clearly its Yes We Can do something.
    .
    .
    .

  5. #15
    Liberal Fascist For Life!


    Redress's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Georgia
    Last Seen
    Today @ 03:11 AM
    Lean
    Very Liberal
    Posts
    93,331
    Blog Entries
    2

    Re: Is Raising Revenue More Important Than Raising Tax Rates?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mayor Snorkum View Post
    By lowering tax rates, of course.

    This poll is independent of the spending side of the criminals in Washington. It's simply about the goals.
    Lowering tax rates lowers revenue below what they would be without lowering the tax rates. While it will promote growth, the break even point tends to be quite far in the future and almost impossible to actually measure. Your premise for the thread is inherently flawed. The only way the government can affect revenue directly is by changing taxes.
    We became a great nation not because we are a nation of cynics. We became a great nation because we are a nation of believers - Lindsey Graham

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Uh oh Megyn...your vagina witchcraft is about ready to be exposed.

  6. #16
    Sage
    whysoserious's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    Charlotte, NC
    Last Seen
    12-29-16 @ 03:02 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    8,170

    Re: Is Raising Revenue More Important Than Raising Tax Rates?

    I voted revenue, only because I think before raising taxes, loopholes should be closed first. Then, if still needed, taxes can be raised.
    Ted Cruz is the dumbest person alive.

  7. #17
    Sage
    Harry Guerrilla's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Not affiliated with other libertarians.
    Last Seen
    09-01-17 @ 02:38 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    28,955

    Re: Is Raising Revenue More Important Than Raising Tax Rates?

    From a practical perspective, we should adjust our budgets to meet the revenues because we can not control the economy enough to meet the revenue requirements to fund the budget.
    I was discovering that life just simply isn't fair and bask in the unsung glory of knowing that each obstacle overcome along the way only adds to the satisfaction in the end. Nothing great, after all, was ever accomplished by anyone sulking in his or her misery.
    —Adam Shepard

  8. #18
    Doesn't go below juicy
    tacomancer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Cleveland
    Last Seen
    05-20-16 @ 02:42 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    31,781

    Re: Is Raising Revenue More Important Than Raising Tax Rates?

    Quote Originally Posted by Badmutha View Post
    Why would people want to leave The Highest State Tax Rate or The Highest City Tax Rate or The Highest Corporate Tax Rate?

    Considering the respective governments set those Highest Tax Rates........clearly its Yes We Can do something.
    .
    .
    .
    Did you really just pretend I asked a question I didn't ask? How about you actually debate me instead of yourself.

  9. #19
    Liberal Fascist For Life!


    Redress's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Georgia
    Last Seen
    Today @ 03:11 AM
    Lean
    Very Liberal
    Posts
    93,331
    Blog Entries
    2

    Re: Is Raising Revenue More Important Than Raising Tax Rates?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    From a practical perspective, we should adjust our budgets to meet the revenues because we can not control the economy enough to meet the revenue requirements to fund the budget.
    Revenue is most controlled by the state of the economy. Adjusting tax rates can and does have some effect on the economy, with higher tax rates depressing the economy by some amount. Therefore to my mind the trick is to find a tax rate that limits the amount of depression to the economy and least hurts those taxes while providing a decent revenue and then using that as the basis for spending and leave tax rates alone. So I would say you are basically correct.
    We became a great nation not because we are a nation of cynics. We became a great nation because we are a nation of believers - Lindsey Graham

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Uh oh Megyn...your vagina witchcraft is about ready to be exposed.

  10. #20
    Sage
    Harry Guerrilla's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Not affiliated with other libertarians.
    Last Seen
    09-01-17 @ 02:38 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    28,955

    Re: Is Raising Revenue More Important Than Raising Tax Rates?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Revenue is most controlled by the state of the economy. Adjusting tax rates can and does have some effect on the economy, with higher tax rates depressing the economy by some amount. Therefore to my mind the trick is to find a tax rate that limits the amount of depression to the economy and least hurts those taxes while providing a decent revenue and then using that as the basis for spending and leave tax rates alone. So I would say you are basically correct.
    Even then though, there is no truly predictable amount of revenue that taxes will generate, because new taxes can cause changes in behavior.
    It's one of the unseen effects.

    On the flip side, cutting budgets is pretty straight forward.
    Although, it to can cause changes in behavior, but not as broad.

    We need a budget that flexes with revenue, so we don't have to constantly fight over this issue.
    Of course that would also mean, no more additional tax funded programs.
    I was discovering that life just simply isn't fair and bask in the unsung glory of knowing that each obstacle overcome along the way only adds to the satisfaction in the end. Nothing great, after all, was ever accomplished by anyone sulking in his or her misery.
    —Adam Shepard

Page 2 of 18 FirstFirst 123412 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •