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Thread: The fuel of the future

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    Re: The fuel of the future

    Quote Originally Posted by shintao View Post
    This is pretty impressive.


    After my father retired, he spent several years trying to build a motor that ran on permanent magnets only. I helped him, off an on. This one looks a lot like some of his later designs... but they never ran by themselves for very long, and you couldn't pull any useful load off of them. If they're claiming otherwise, frankly I'd have to suspect fraud until proven wrong. The problem is that the repulsion/attraction effect wants to balance out after a few cycles, so you try to use cams to pull the magnets in and out of contact. The mechanical loss of efficiency means you lose energy each cycle until the motor stops. Meanwhile, you can't put a load on or it stops that much quicker.

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    Re: The fuel of the future

    Quote Originally Posted by Temporal View Post
    It's not a lie. I'm not trying to intentionally mislead anyone. I believe the technology to be potable, especially if it can be refined. The first electric generators were pieces of **** and they could not power very much at all. But they got millions in funding, which for the time was a lot.

    Tesla also worked on that side of things too. He wasn't just some fringe scientist. He helped with the advent of transformers and electric stations for amplifying currents. He just felt they were inefficient and there were better means.

    What Goshin said only goes to show how understated Tesla is as a scientist in our historical knowledge. We wouldn't have t.v's or radios without him, and much of the electronics technology today is based on his designs.

    Goshin... you can't find a telluric generator in operation but the original station in Britain is still there. It's being made into an historical monument, but all the equipment and apparatus are inside that could make it function again. You need multiple stations to increase energy potentials. He only made the one and it was to conduct research and to show something to his investors.

    I'm mostly just annoyed that it is being written off so easily, given that it barely had a chance to take off in the first place and has since been buried.
    MUCH of our electronic technology is based on his designs? I guess it's all secretly hidden at Bell Labs, PARC and other places, huh? This Tesla worship is getting ridiculous. OMG we would have all died off centuries ago without Tesla.
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    Re: The fuel of the future

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    MUCH of our electronic technology is based on his designs? I guess it's all secretly hidden at Bell Labs, PARC and other places, huh? This Tesla worship is getting ridiculous. OMG we would have all died off centuries ago without Tesla.
    How far do you think technology would have progressed without the AC motor?
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    Re: The fuel of the future

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    How far do you think technology would have progressed without the AC motor?
    How far with a lot of things, continue your worship. He was the only man to do something.
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    Re: The fuel of the future

    Quote Originally Posted by Temporal View Post
    It's not a lie. I'm not trying to intentionally mislead anyone. I believe the technology to be potable, especially if it can be refined. The first electric generators were pieces of **** and they could not power very much at all. But they got millions in funding, which for the time was a lot.

    Tesla also worked on that side of things too. He wasn't just some fringe scientist. He helped with the advent of transformers and electric stations for amplifying currents. He just felt they were inefficient and there were better means.

    What Goshin said only goes to show how understated Tesla is as a scientist in our historical knowledge. We wouldn't have t.v's or radios without him, and much of the electronics technology today is based on his designs.

    Goshin... you can't find a telluric generator in operation but the original station in Britain is still there. It's being made into an historical monument, but all the equipment and apparatus are inside that could make it function again. You need multiple stations to increase energy potentials. He only made the one and it was to conduct research and to show something to his investors.

    I'm mostly just annoyed that it is being written off so easily, given that it barely had a chance to take off in the first place and has since been buried.
    If you are going to take this position, give us a clue as to your education and expertise that makes your position credible. Are you an engineer? Scientists? what?
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    Re: The fuel of the future

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    How far with a lot of things, continue your worship. He was the only man to do something.
    I don't worship him, I only really like him 'cause he was portrayed by David Bowie in a movie, but he did have a huge effect on the use of electricity, him and Edison did to electricity what Einstein and Marie Curie did to nuclear physics.
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    Re: The fuel of the future

    Quote Originally Posted by shintao View Post
    This is pretty impressive.

    It is only impressive to people who don't have a technical education....
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    Re: The fuel of the future

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    I don't worship him, I only really like him 'cause he was portrayed by David Bowie in a movie, but he did have a huge effect on the use of electricity, him and Edison did to electricity what Einstein and Marie Curie did to nuclear physics.
    So, what is that little alcove in the vestibule with the statue and all burnt offerings all about, then?
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    Re: The fuel of the future

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    The stress is on the economists, having to determine what is best based on the "humanness of man".
    We must study and learn, using 100% of our intelligence.
    The fuels will be all of the above and more.
    Can we go nuclear and shoot all of the waste to the moon ??
    Can we "live" with some pollution, as we always have in the past ?
    The dangers ?.. Do we really know what they are ?

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    Re: The fuel of the future

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    So, what is that little alcove in the vestibule with the statue and all burnt offerings all about, then?
    That's all for Faraday, He really deserves worship.
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