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Thread: The fuel of the future

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    Re: The fuel of the future

    back in my day, when we were looking for a purpose for our newfound aerospace capabilities (immediately after the moon landings), the L5 project was a front runner (projected to be fully deployed in 1995 ... hence L5 in '95)
    unfortunately, the ronnie raygun administration ****canned it
    appears the chinese and japanese are tooling up for their own space solar programs:
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    Re: The fuel of the future

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    We need to start developing cost efficient solar that can be used for cars, houses, basically everything we use oil for, and be the first to develop such tech, and then sell the tech off to other counties, and profit from it. It would also take away alot of the political power from the middle east.
    It's a hard thing to do when it's not part of the culture or the economic structure. I mean, even if people do get electric cars, how easy are they to use? Can I plug it in while I'm visiting a relative? Are there stations built everywhere that I can recharge the batteries? (Specifics aside, I hope you get my point.)

    It's compounded by the fact that we have well-entrenched, corporate oligarchies that are stifling our capacity to distribute innovation to the general populace. Their bottom line is served better (in a quarterly way) by keeping the system as static as possible.

    Before humans make major strides in our energy economy, this economic paradigm must necessarily change. Capitalism is an inefficient means to disseminate new technology. The deadlocks and monopolies must be dealt with. In Europe they are seeing more of an expansion of green tech because the regulatory forces are more aware of what needs to be done; but North America is held in the grips of non-government actors.

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    Re: The fuel of the future

    Quote Originally Posted by Temporal View Post
    My vote would be some combination of the above.

    I have read about telluric currents in the earth and how Dr. Tesla was able to harness them. Tesla had a functional telluric generator operating in the UK (I might be remembering the location wrong). A network of telluric generators stationed at regular intervals around the earth would allow us to use the energy of the earth itself as our power source. For anyone who has ever seen experiments showing light bulbs turning on when their element is placed directly onto soil - that was Tesla's work.

    You can also use it for instantaneous communication and, based on recent studies, extremely high speed data transfer. He discovered this as part of his work with radio amplifier technology (which he invented and we now use daily worldwide).

    All of this discovered just before the 20th century.

    We already have the technology to supply the world with energy at zero cost to us or the environment. Anyone who seriously wants to know the truth, research Dr. Tesla's work. It's not a conspiracy... he was a genius well beyond his time.
    Telluric currents were discovered before Tesla's time and don't even come close to producing enough power for practical use. It was used to power devices like telegraphs in the 19th century, but that is roughly the limit of its usefulness.

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    Re: The fuel of the future

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    Telluric currents were discovered before Tesla's time and don't even come close to producing enough power for practical use. It was used to power devices like telegraphs in the 19th century, but that is roughly the limit of its usefulness.
    That's because the models in use were the first ones that were being tested in a preliminary way, and there were only a few activated.

    The technology is workable. It just lost funding because there was no profit to be made off of it. If energy is everywhere then no one is controlling the supply. It's why Thomas Edison won.

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    Re: The fuel of the future

    Quote Originally Posted by Temporal View Post
    That's because the models in use were the first ones that were being tested in a preliminary way, and there were only a few activated.

    The technology is workable. It just lost funding because there was no profit to be made off of it. If energy is everywhere then no one is controlling the supply. It's why Thomas Edison won.
    There simply isn't enough energy in telluric currents and all the funding the world isn't going to change that fact.

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    Re: The fuel of the future

    Quote Originally Posted by Temporal View Post
    My vote would be some combination of the above.

    I have read about telluric currents in the earth and how Dr. Tesla was able to harness them. Tesla had a functional telluric generator operating in the UK (I might be remembering the location wrong). A network of telluric generators stationed at regular intervals around the earth would allow us to use the energy of the earth itself as our power source. For anyone who has ever seen experiments showing light bulbs turning on when their element is placed directly onto soil - that was Tesla's work.

    You can also use it for instantaneous communication and, based on recent studies, extremely high speed data transfer. He discovered this as part of his work with radio amplifier technology (which he invented and we now use daily worldwide).

    All of this discovered just before the 20th century.

    We already have the technology to supply the world with energy at zero cost to us or the environment. Anyone who seriously wants to know the truth, research Dr. Tesla's work. It's not a conspiracy... he was a genius well beyond his time.
    You really need to take anything now purported to be "discovered by Tesla" with a grain or three of salt. There's all kinds of "free energy" BS being promoted out there (and it is all fraud and delusion) and "Tesla" is one of the magic words they try to conjure credibility with. Not to say Tesla wasn't a brilliant man, but these days anything marked "Tesla SECRET" or "LOST Tesla discovery" is a big red flag.

    You really take all this stuff seriously? Show me ONE working "Tesla" free-energy generator that exists today, and an address where I can go put my hands on it and see it produce energy.

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    Re: The fuel of the future

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    back in my day, when we were looking for a purpose for our newfound aerospace capabilities (immediately after the moon landings), the L5 project was a front runner (projected to be fully deployed in 1995 ... hence L5 in '95)
    unfortunately, the ronnie raygun administration ****canned it
    appears the chinese and japanese are tooling up for their own space solar programs:
    The Race for Space-Solar Energy | Truthout
    The U.S. uses 27 Petawatthours of electricty per year and the single digit gigawatts plants quoted in the article aren't going to be enough. Maybe in far future, but not the near future.

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    Re: The fuel of the future

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    You really need to take anything now purported to be "discovered by Tesla" with a grain or three of salt. There's all kinds of "free energy" BS being promoted out there (and it is all fraud and delusion) and "Tesla" is one of the magic words they try to conjure credibility with. Not to say Tesla wasn't a brilliant man, but these days anything marked "Tesla SECRET" or "LOST Tesla discovery" is a big red flag.

    You really take all this stuff seriously? Show me ONE working "Tesla" free-energy generator that exists today, and an address where I can go put my hands on it and see it produce energy.
    Telluric generators are real and you can build one yourself. Put copper and zinc in the plates in the ground a few feet apart. Connect them up to a voltmeter and you'll probably get ~1 volt. The lie is in the delusion that they could be used for nationwide generation, not the basic principle.

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    Re: The fuel of the future

    A ubiquitous fuel other than solar has massive limits as dose solar. There has to be a break in technology to couple a new longer life battery with solar to make it a perfect power source.

    Then comes the question of recycling the batteries.

    There is the compressed air car. I could live with that, too, if I could afford one. With this there is no pollution only the need for electricity to run the air compressor.

    For the little driving I do these day an all electric car or small truck would be great. I drive less than 100 miles a month and it's by design I picked a location that is within 5 miles of everything I need.

    Problem comes when it comes to the cost of all electrics and hybrids.

    All compressed air cars are not weird looking.




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    Re: The fuel of the future

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    Telluric generators are real and you can build one yourself. Put copper and zinc in the plates in the ground a few feet apart. Connect them up to a voltmeter and you'll probably get ~1 volt. The lie is in the delusion that they could be used for nationwide generation, not the basic principle.
    It's not a lie. I'm not trying to intentionally mislead anyone. I believe the technology to be potable, especially if it can be refined. The first electric generators were pieces of **** and they could not power very much at all. But they got millions in funding, which for the time was a lot.

    Tesla also worked on that side of things too. He wasn't just some fringe scientist. He helped with the advent of transformers and electric stations for amplifying currents. He just felt they were inefficient and there were better means.

    What Goshin said only goes to show how understated Tesla is as a scientist in our historical knowledge. We wouldn't have t.v's or radios without him, and much of the electronics technology today is based on his designs.

    Goshin... you can't find a telluric generator in operation but the original station in Britain is still there. It's being made into an historical monument, but all the equipment and apparatus are inside that could make it function again. You need multiple stations to increase energy potentials. He only made the one and it was to conduct research and to show something to his investors.

    I'm mostly just annoyed that it is being written off so easily, given that it barely had a chance to take off in the first place and has since been buried.

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