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    Re: Public K-12 Education: Conservative or Liberal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Centrehalf View Post
    It's pretty simple. Teach kids that they have a responsibility to everyone other than themselves, that they shouldn't question authority, and that their leaders are smarter than they are. That their individual rights aren't worth a hill of beans, and that they should shut up and do what they're told. That's neither Liberal nor Conservative, but it's being taught right now.
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    Re: Public K-12 Education: Conservative or Liberal?

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    For the record, standardized tests have become a joke. I have no problem with a subject test, but these yearly exams students must take to prove they meet state requirements have led teachers to do nothing but teach how to pass the test, since their pay raises rely heavily on student success. These ridiculous programs are hindering learning.
    I always see people say this, but I never see anyone demonstrate it. What precisely are you referencing?

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    Re: Public K-12 Education: Conservative or Liberal?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    gosh if only there were some way that the government could allow you to control the education dollars allotted to your child so that you could direct them to a school that had neither...... what would we call such a system?
    going to a private school.

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    Re: Public K-12 Education: Conservative or Liberal?

    I didn't realize there was a difference in public schools. Public schools are run by the government and in turn run by one people...there is no conservative or liberal its merely government run indoctrination centers...children don't go to school to learn they are now merely pawns in a game of life and death that most people have not woken up to.

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    Re: Public K-12 Education: Conservative or Liberal?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    I always see people say this, but I never see anyone demonstrate it. What precisely are you referencing?
    Twelve years in the public education system in Texas, coupled with 3 years of internships and observations during college. In Texas, teacher pay is heavily based on the percentage of children who pass the TAKS test every year, with only about 30% of their performance dependent upon student success on general coursework.

    As a student we spent August-April preparing for the TAKS (formerly TAAS) test. During that time at least 50% of our day was focused on test taking strategies, practice tests, and "tricks" to help us answer questions we don't know the answers to. We were taught how to write to please those grading that portion (and graders were often not educators, or those with any education background to speak of...they requested volunteers to save money).
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    Re: Public K-12 Education: Conservative or Liberal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Alfons View Post
    What would you prefer for your children, conservative or liberal K-12 Education in public schools?Do not forget that after liberal "education" in public schools many children are illiterate and know nothing. BTW most of wealthy people ( democrats and liberals too ) send their children only to conservative schools. Please explain your choice and do not forget that too liberal "education" in public schools has downgraded America to one of the lowest places among other western countries.
    1. I would prefer my children to go to a school that forces them to examine every idea they encounter.
    2. Nothing you said is true.

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    Re: Public K-12 Education: Conservative or Liberal?

    Quote Originally Posted by GoodOleBoy View Post
    I didn't realize there was a difference in public schools. Public schools are run by the government and in turn run by one people...there is no conservative or liberal its merely government run indoctrination centers...children don't go to school to learn they are now merely pawns in a game of life and death that most people have not woken up to.
    The BOE in Texas recently voted to change the content of science and history textbooks. They now contain revisionist accounts of Texas' involvement in slavery, the treatment of Indians, and other controversial events. They also modify the names of historic events or organizations to paint them in a better light. The science textbooks are now required to give equal birth to creationism and evolution, despite the inbalance in evidence.
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    Re: Public K-12 Education: Conservative or Liberal?

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    going to a private school.
    actually it would be called "education vouchers"

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    Re: Public K-12 Education: Conservative or Liberal?

    I find public k-12 schools to be mostly nonpartisan? They do not get real deep into issues that could be considered liberal or not. I suppose sex education is somewhat liberal... but other than that, they are really just learning basic stuff man.
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    Re: Public K-12 Education: Conservative or Liberal?

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    Twelve years in the public education system in Texas, coupled with 3 years of internships and observations during college. In Texas, teacher pay is heavily based on the percentage of children who pass the TAKS test every year, with only about 30% of their performance dependent upon student success on general coursework.
    okay.

    As a student we spent August-April preparing for the TAKS (formerly TAAS) test. During that time at least 50% of our day was focused on test taking strategies, practice tests, and "tricks" to help us answer questions we don't know the answers to. We were taught how to write to please those grading that portion (and graders were often not educators, or those with any education background to speak of...they requested volunteers to save money).
    so you were taught the material on the test, study strategies, and how to write effectively.

    you're going to have to forgive me if i see this as not that bad a trade-off in return for a metric by which we can compare/contrast school, teacher, and student performance.

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