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    Re: A Progressive Approach to Buying Groceries

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I do most of my shopping at Wal-Mart(sue me, it is cheaper), so my impulse buys can be 100 or more.
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    Re: A Progressive Approach to Buying Groceries

    Hey, this is interesting: Glenn Beck: What if ‘progressive tax’ became ‘progressive pricing’? – Glenn Beck

    Wonder how I knew this was a nutty Beck idea...
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    Re: A Progressive Approach to Buying Groceries

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    We all know about the progressive income tax - the more you make, the more you pay. Would you support that idea at the grocery store as well? If you make over a certain amount, you have to pay an inflated price for your gallon of milk. If you make under a certain amount, you get the gallon of milk for free or for very little money.

    Would this work in our society? Would you approve of it?
    This already exists in our society. It's called:

    Are you ready for this... Been around for decades...

    FOOD STAMPS!!!

    Beyond that OP, I'll say it too, to raise the price of an item just because an individual makes more than another individual is stupid. The reason that some people make more than others is they earned it. That means they actually get up everyday, go to work, they studied, they set goals for themselves and met those goals.

    Those people have other things they want to spend their hard earned money on than inflated grocerty prices. This is not progressive pricing. This is not progressive groceries, this is not progressive anything. It's called socialism.

    Tell ya what Opiette, I'll make ya a deal.

    You go out and make $100,000.00 this year. I'll sit at home and twiddle my thumbs on webcam andearn $10,000.00 this year. But, at the end of the year I want you to bring me $55,000.00 cash just so I have the same exact buying power as you.

    I dare you to say that's not what your saying. I triple dog dare you.

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    Re: A Progressive Approach to Buying Groceries

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    We all know about the progressive income tax - the more you make, the more you pay. Would you support that idea at the grocery store as well? If you make over a certain amount, you have to pay an inflated price for your gallon of milk. If you make under a certain amount, you get the gallon of milk for free or for very little money.

    Would this work in our society? Would you approve of it?
    I think a better analogy is paying Safeway 50% of your income regardless of whether or not you shop there. Customers can then go to Safeway and take standard issue items, like a food bank.

    The value of the groceries anyone leaves with would be about 20% at the most, because Safeway is unionized and has political campaigns to fund with the remaining 30%.

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    Re: A Progressive Approach to Buying Groceries

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    We all know about the progressive income tax - the more you make, the more you pay. Would you support that idea at the grocery store as well? If you make over a certain amount, you have to pay an inflated price for your gallon of milk. If you make under a certain amount, you get the gallon of milk for free or for very little money.

    Would this work in our society? Would you approve of it?
    No, because it would be overly complicated. I would hate to have to take my tax information with me whenever I went grocery shopping.

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    Re: A Progressive Approach to Buying Groceries

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Walmart isn't bad but the people at Ingles are more personable.
    They know my kids.

    I hate the crowds at Walmart.
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    Re: A Progressive Approach to Buying Groceries

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    I make good money and buy the cheapest brands most of the time. My question was should people who make more pay more no matter if they choose the organic milk or the off-brand milk.
    I doubt it. The cheapest would be powerdered or condensed milk. That is typically what you would find at a food bank.

    The fact is that richer people do pay more for virtually the same product.
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    Re: A Progressive Approach to Buying Groceries

    Be realistic. Liberals wait outside and take your groceries. It's called "redistribution".

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    Re: A Progressive Approach to Buying Groceries

    Well, sales tax is regressive, because a $100 shop for someone earning $20,000 is a far bigger pecentage of their income than for someone earning $200,000 or $2,000,000, therefore it taxes the poor more than it taxes the rich.

    The logistics of the idea of 'progressive' sales tax make it practicably impossible, hence the need for progressive income and property taxes.
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    Re: A Progressive Approach to Buying Groceries

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    Well, sales tax is regressive, because a $100 shop for someone earning $20,000 is a far bigger pecentage of their income than for someone earning $200,000 or $2,000,000, therefore it taxes the poor more than it taxes the rich.

    The logistics of the idea of 'progressive' sales tax make it practicably impossible, hence the need for progressive income and property taxes.
    Let's cover Income Tax first:

    An idividual with 3 kids making 25K a year pays $0.00 in Federal Income Tax, actually, they receive 100% back that they paid into it plus additional credits for having kids and working. This is basic Reaganomics & the Trickle down theory. It's why every Feb. we have a boost to the economy as the poor get their EIC and go blow it on big screens and x-boxes.

    Individuals how make $200,000.00 or $2,000,000.00 a year do not receive 100% of their paid Federal Income Tax back, in fact, they actually pay up to 25% of their taxable income into Federal Taxes and qualify for No EIC. I would say this is a progressive income tax.

    Next up, Property Tax. Property taxes are based upon the value of your home. You want cheaper property taxes, then move to a house that has a lower value, it's that simple. Someone in $30K house pays less in Property Taxes than someone who lives in a $100K house. Now, the individual in the $100K house more than likely makes more than the individual in the $30K house, which is why they can afford the more expensive home and are thus paying higher taxes. This is called a Progressive Tax.

    Now, if the tax rate is 1% of the Property value for all, then how are the poor being taxed more?

    If your house is worth $30k then you will pay $300 in taxes. If your house is worth $300k then you will pay $1,000.00 in taxes. See how that works?

    Are you now going to arguing that 1% of a poor person's income is greater in comparison than 1% of a rich person's income?

    Sales tax: It's a percentage of the amount you spend. In Ohio Food is not taxable, so buy all the food you want and pay no taxes. In PA clothes are not taxable so buy all the clothes you want and pay no taxes. Live near the Ohio/PA border in WV and you'll really pay no taxes hardly. Low property values in WV, No food tax in Ohio & no clothing tax in PA. You want to quit paying income tax? Move to Florida or NV and get out of State Income tax.

    You want to quit paying sales tax, then quit buying taxable goods or buy the cheapest ones you can.

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