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Progressive Grading in School

Would you support Progressive Grading?

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Harry Guerrilla

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This isn't a trap thread and it's here to make you think.

Would you support a system of grading, where the higher performing students have part of their grades distributed to lower performing students, in order for their (lower performing students) grades to be brought up to passing?

This should be applied to all levels from Kindergarten-College/University.

Explain your reasoning, behind your answer, please.
 
No... just like i don't like progressive anything
 
No.

I'm for progressive teaching, where those students who are struggling get more attention and focused instruction in the classroom.
 
Absolutely not. Ridiculous idea.
 
No. That type of grading isn't helpful to any student. What the teacher should be doing is finding out which students are having a difficult time and addressing them. This can be done by either spending more time with the students, either in class, during recess, or after school, or have study buddies and match them up with kids that tend to do better. Actually understanding something is more important than a grade. If you know how a math equation works, than you can solve most of the math problems.
 
It's a tough place to be as a teacher. There are students who need a TON of help and those that can pretty much do anything on their own. I feel like many kids get ignored because the teacher is spending all of her time with either the troublemakers or the ones that are way behind. I go back to the parents every time. If more parents cared about their kids' education we wouldn't have so many problems in school. The breakdown of the family is THE main problem. But how do we fix that?
 
Mellie said:
It's a tough place to be as a teacher. There are students who need a TON of help and those that can pretty much do anything on their own. I feel like many kids get ignored because the teacher is spending all of her time with either the troublemakers or the ones that are way behind. I go back to the parents every time. If more parents cared about their kids' education we wouldn't have so many problems in school. The breakdown of the family is THE main problem. But how do we fix that?
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I think teachers shouldn't have to walk on egg shells when it comes to discipline in the classroom. Not that teachers should go overboard or anything, but I think they, and administrators, are generally too restricted when it comes to dealing with troublemakers.
 
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I think teachers shouldn't have to walk on egg shells when it comes to discipline in the classroom. Not that teachers should go overboard or anything, but I think they, and administrators, are generally too restricted when it comes to dealing with troublemakers.
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Agreed...........
 
It's a ridiculous concept.
 
Harry Guerrilla said:
To detractors, would it not allow for those on the lower end to graduate and gain access to higher paying jobs?
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People who graduate have access to higher paying jobs because of their education, if you just give them the grades without the education, then you are devaluing the diploma, and also making your citizens idiots in the process.
 
No, that's cheating.
 
Harry Guerrilla said:
To detractors, would it not allow for those on the lower end to graduate and gain access to higher paying jobs?
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Yes. Does that mean they could successfully do the higher paying job? No. They have been short-changed on their education and, unless perhaps they are working in a huge bureaucracy, their employer will notice.

But I have the feeling you have already considered this...
 
Harry Guerrilla said:
In other area's, yes. :)
I thought it was apparent.
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It other areas(such as taxes) a progressive system is just fine, but not for education, it makes no sense, and just robs people of an education. We should make it harder to graduate, not easier. A high graduation rate means jack **** if the graduates are idiots.
 
This is a trap! Progressive income tax and grading aren't the same, Harry! DUH. What a dumb poll question!!!!

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Harry Guerrilla said:
This isn't a trap thread and it's here to make you think.

Would you support a system of grading, where the higher performing students have part of their grades distributed to lower performing students, in order for their (lower performing students) grades to be brought up to passing?

This should be applied to all levels from Kindergarten-College/University.

Explain your reasoning, behind your answer, please.
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Only if it was graded on a curve. Poor performers need incentive to keep the bar low for high performers.

In seriousness, there's nothing in the "socio-political-economic" arrangements of a classroom that morally justifies such re-distribution. That's not necessarily true of civilization as a whole, if the effort the entire population puts into maintaining the pre-conditions of profitable activity is otherwise unrewarded. It's also not practical. High performers would immediately stop putting effort into their school work because their gains would become too small. That's not necessarily the situation of high earners in the market. High performers are bound to be part of an ever shrinking pool of diligent students, but there will usually be people willing to work for less than the high earners are accustomed to making. That's an important aspect of the global economy and the cause of job exportation.
 
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It other areas(such as taxes) a progressive system is just fine, but not for education, it makes no sense, and just robs people of an education. We should make it harder to graduate, not easier. A high graduation rate means jack **** if the graduates are idiots.
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But you don't need a A average or 4.0 to graduate, why not spread it to those that need it?
 
Harry Guerrilla said:
But you don't need a A average or 4.0 to graduate, why not spread it to those that need it?
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Because that is robbing those kids you are giving those grades too of an education. Like I said, it should be harder to graduate, not easier.
 
Harry Guerrilla said:
But you don't need a A average or 4.0 to graduate, why not spread it to those that need it?
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How far do you think this analogy carries? The economy and its rules and relationships are more complicated than the egalitarian arrangement of public education.
 
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How far do you think this analogy carries? The economy and its rules and relationships are more complicated than a classroom. The economy isn't deliberately as egalitarian as possible.
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I'm not so sure about that.
It seems inconsistent to me that one form is "cheating, stealing, etc" while another is fair.

Surely there are students who cheat in school, in fact at times there are a great many who "cheat" through, privileges of parents, income, actual cheating, etc.

Why is one excusable and the other not?
 
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