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    Re: Progressive Grading in School

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    And this is why I don't think just giving money to people is the best idea. But we should give them skills to earn money on their own. But this is a complaint on the welfare system, not progressive taxation.
    That is typical excuse given for the need to progressively tax people.
    That is how our system operates, it takes from the top and gives to the middle, with some going to the lower.
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    Re: Progressive Grading in School

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    That is typical excuse given for the need to progressively tax people.
    That is how our system operates, it takes from the top and gives to the middle, with some going to the lower.
    The rich can handle a bigger burden of tax, unlike the middle, and lower classes. That is why I support a progressive tax, and I think the government should offer programs for the lower classes, and under educated people to educate themselves, and raise their status in live. That is something I believe the government should do, because I think it is best for society.
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    Re: Progressive Grading in School

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    The rich can handle a bigger burden of tax, unlike the middle, and lower classes. That is why I support a progressive tax, and I think the government should offer programs for the lower classes, and under educated people to educate themselves, and raise their status in live. That is something I believe the government should do, because I think it is best for society.
    Your first statement isn't necessarily true though.

    What if the "rich" derives his/her income from a business, with million dollar loans to pay, which started the business?

    What if the middle class person is living with his/her parents and can afford to pay more?

    These all encompassing statements don't measure up, they are like stereotypes, without context to each individual situation.
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    Re: Progressive Grading in School

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Your first statement isn't necessarily true though.

    What if the "rich" derives his/her income from a business, with million dollar loans to pay, which started the business?

    What if the middle class person is living with his/her parents and can afford to pay more?

    These all encompassing statements don't measure up, they are like stereotypes, without context to each individual situation.
    It generally is true, and I'm assuming you are arguing for a flat tax, which would overwhelming put burden on the middle and lower classes.
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    Re: Progressive Grading in School

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    The rich can handle a bigger burden of tax, unlike the middle, and lower classes. That is why I support a progressive tax, and I think the government should offer programs for the lower classes, and under educated people to educate themselves, and raise their status in live. That is something I believe the government should do, because I think it is best for society.

    Look at the marginal value of income. A 100 dollars means more to a person that makes 30k vs. a person that makes 100k.

    In the end the people that have more cheapen the value of money.

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    Re: Progressive Grading in School

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Look at the marginal value of income. A 100 dollars means more to a person that makes 30k vs. a person that makes 100k.

    In the end the people that have more cheapen the value of money.
    This is the basic, and most convincing argument for a progressive tax.
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    Re: Progressive Grading in School

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    It generally is true, and I'm assuming you are arguing for a flat tax, which would overwhelming put burden on the middle and lower classes.
    Any tax that is a flat percentage, would result in rich people paying the majority of taxes.
    You can't say it is generally true, you just assume that such is true.
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    Re: Progressive Grading in School

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Any tax that is a flat percentage, would result in rich people paying the majority of taxes.
    You can't say it is generally true, you just assume that such is true.
    Look at Winston's post, no reason to type the same thing twice.
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    Re: Progressive Grading in School

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    Look at Winston's post, no reason to type the same thing twice.
    Which doesn't address, at all, why a flat tax is not do able.
    Based on a percentage, rich people will still pay the vast majority of taxes.

    Marginal utility would be a good argument, if it were a fixed amount of taxes per person, which it is not.
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    Re: Progressive Grading in School

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    No because money can be spent, help the economy, help provide people with housing, food, clothing etc, make sure that people aren't living in favela like conditions, and provide people with the opportunity to improve their scenario.
    grades can be spent the same way - attaining scholarships, getting access to higher education, providing people with the opportunity to improve their scenario.

    I repeat grades are NOTHING if they do not represent the education one has received.
    and dollars are nothing if they do not represent some form of production. but the grades that are being shuffled around here are the result of education. the education of those evil high-performing students, remember?
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