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Thread: Progressive Grading in School

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    Re: Progressive Grading in School

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    What does this have to do with what I said? You are making the most tenuous of connections to try and show that two dissimilar things are the same. They are not, they are dissimilar. This is why you should not steal talking points from Beck.
    Not from Beck, it's from a blog on bias and exploring how people make mental short cuts to excuse their inconsistencies, without being able to articulate why these 2 things are different enough to dismiss it.

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    You're free to review his material, I found it interesting and thought to make it a poll.
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    Re: Progressive Grading in School

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Not from Beck, it's from a blog on bias and exploring how people make mental short cuts to excuse their inconsistencies, without being able to articulate why these 2 things are different enough to dismiss it.

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    You're free to review his material, I found it interesting and thought to make it a poll.
    The comparison comes from a Beck talking point from about a year ago that I suspect was re-aired this week. Your link actually misses the point too. If you where to ask people a question comparing any two highly dissimilar items why they are dissimilar, the normal reaction is to look at you funny and walk away in disgust. It's not a sign of being unable to articulate the reasoning, it's a sign that you are asking a stupid question.
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    Re: Progressive Grading in School

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The comparison comes from a Beck talking point from about a year ago that I suspect was re-aired this week. Your link actually misses the point too. If you where to ask people a question comparing any two highly dissimilar items why they are dissimilar, the normal reaction is to look at you funny and walk away in disgust. It's not a sign of being unable to articulate the reasoning, it's a sign that you are asking a stupid question.
    I don't watch Beck, not much TV at all, this was linked from another blog I read.

    If it was so easy to dismiss, why walk away, why not thrash the person asking the question?
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    Re: Progressive Grading in School

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I don't watch Beck, not much TV at all, this was linked from another blog I read.

    If it was so easy to dismiss, why walk away, why not thrash the person asking the question?
    Why don't we paint bricks the same color as airplanes since they can both fly through the sky?
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    Re: Progressive Grading in School

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Why don't we paint bricks the same color as airplanes since they can both fly through the sky?
    Both Grades and income are a means of social status, they are both achieved through some kind of productive work, they are both a measurement of achievement in work.

    They are far more similar, than bricks and airplanes.
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    Re: Progressive Grading in School

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Not from Beck, it's from a blog on bias and exploring how people make mental short cuts to excuse their inconsistencies, without being able to articulate why these 2 things are different enough to dismiss it.

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    You're free to review his material, I found it interesting and thought to make it a poll.
    They are completely different, and I'll tell you why. Because grades are earned for the individual, to represent that individuals education, and are not meant to be taxed. It would be like downgrading a black belt in karate to a orange belt, so that the lower levels can also be a orange belt. ( I know nothing of karate so I just picked orange) Now with income it is different, you know it's going to be taxed, and how to effectively tax a population for the greater good is to tax the people who earn more, more. Because they can bear the burden, more than someone who doesn't make as much.
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    Re: Progressive Grading in School

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Both Grades and income are a means of social status, they are both achieved through some kind of productive work, they are both a measurement of achievement in work.

    They are far more similar, than bricks and airplanes.
    Bricks and airplanes can fly through the air. Bricks and airplanes have weight. Bricks and airplanes are frequently seen at airports.
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    Re: Progressive Grading in School

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    It's a ridiculous concept.
    no it's not. those students have benefited more from the public resources (the school, classroom, teachers) that have been made available to all. they are the lucky ones, and can afford to lose some points to help to bring the less fortunate up. So maybe the Rhodes Scholars will have a slightly lower GPA - but they still be able to get into a far better college than the less-advantaged students will get into, and the reward of the trade is that our less-advantaged students will be able themselves to attend colleges, albiet more likely community colleges. College degrees have been demonstrated to better a person for life - including their income, personal stability, lower divorce rates... by spreading some of the grades around at the beginning, we can lift disadvantaged students up while not costing the uber-advantaged students anything they can't afford. Rhodes Scholars and Harvard Business Grads can afford some GPA points to help make our society more fair.

    and if you don't agree with that - then you're a racist.

    just sayin.
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    Re: Progressive Grading in School

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    They are completely different, and I'll tell you why. Because grades are earned for the individual, to represent that individuals education, and are not meant to be taxed. It would be like downgrading a black belt in karate to a orange belt, so that the lower levels can also be a orange belt. ( I know nothing of karate so I just picked orange) Now with income it is different, you know it's going to be taxed, and how to effectively tax a population for the greater good is to tax the people who earn more, more. Because they can bear the burden, more than someone who doesn't make as much.
    Knowing doesn't change anything.

    Greater good is arguable.
    It could be a great good to have people graduate, and that them feeling successful does more to help them, than actually making them go through the steps to complete it themselves.

    Both are forms of taxing achievement, both can claimed to be done for the "greater good."
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    Re: Progressive Grading in School

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Bricks and airplanes can fly through the air. Bricks and airplanes have weight. Bricks and airplanes are frequently seen at airports.
    Except that bricks don't make airplanes, but good education can make a good career.
    You don't build a plane out of bricks, nor do you build an airport out of airplanes.

    Income and education have a high correlative connection.
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