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    Re: Progressive Grading in School

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    It's an apple and oranges comparison. The more you earn, you progressively use more of the commons taxes pay for.
    There is no truth in that.
    Does a systems administrator use more commons, than a McDonald's worker?
    Not likely and the inverse could be true.
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    Re: Progressive Grading in School

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I'm trying to get people to think that shuffling grades is analogous to shuffling income, both resulting in no long term solution to learning, whether it be math or learning to provide for oneself.
    Well said.....


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    Re: Progressive Grading in School

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    Agreed. Let's move past the grade thing now and go to food. You make a good argument for progressive food prices. Many children of people who pay no income taxes are STILL going hungry or not getting adequate nutrition because the parents cannot afford groceries. Would you support a progressive system where the rich pay more for their food than the poorer do?
    The problem with progressive food prices is that the computer system and data entry requirements for such a system are extremely impractical. Food prices are forever changing, culture is forever changing, what is gourmet one day is not another, etc. Food stamps (or even better, go back to the old method) is a better solution as it is a simpler system to maintain and would likely have lower costs associated with it. Why have a complicated system when a simple one that effectively meets the same or similar goals would suffice? There is no point in having government just to have it.
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    Re: Progressive Grading in School

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    But we wouldn't even need food stamps under this plan. The uber rich would have to pay 2x to 3x more than the average middle class person. Anyone on poverty level would get their food for free. Everyone would have an ID card that identified them as to which "level" they were on. That card would be scanned at the grocery counter and either you pay less than average, average, more or none.

    The store could use the extra money from the uber rich people to pay their workers more. The rich have the money - they can afford it. Why shouldn't they be obligated to pay more?
    But food stamps are better than this plan. This plan is ludicrous, and does not have the same benefits of a progressive tax system.
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    Re: Progressive Grading in School

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Food stamps (or even better, go back to the old method) is a better solution.
    Old method? --- Fending for yourself and helping out your neighbor during hard times? I'm all for that.


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    Re: Progressive Grading in School

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    Old method? --- Fending for yourself and helping out your neighbor during hard times? I'm all for that.
    No, government cheese

    It removes some of the problems with people trying to cheat the system that we currently face. Plus such a large purchaser can negotiate prices more effectively.

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    Re: Progressive Grading in School

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    But food stamps are better than this plan. This plan is ludicrous, and does not have the same benefits of a progressive tax system.
    How does it not? The rich are paying more (as they should) and, therefore, putting more into the economy. There would be more money for the store and their employees. Everyone wins, right?

    But we shouldn't stop there. Gas prices are horrible. Do you know the toll it takes on a low income family to buy a tank of gas? It's not fair that a rich family pays the same price for gas as the poor. Those on poverty level should get free gasoline.

    I would go down the housing path, but that's already been done.....a few years ago I was looking to rent an apartment. I didn't realize the apartments I was looking at were government housing. The lady had me fill out an application that asked my income. When she saw it she was like, "Whoa.....I'd have to charge you almost 3 times as much as normal for rent each month since your rent is based on your income." Whoa is right.


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    Re: Progressive Grading in School

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    How does it not? The rich are paying more (as they should) and, therefore, putting more into the economy. There would be more money for the store and their employees. Everyone wins, right?
    What I find interesting in this statement is that you are assigning a moral value to the rich paying more taxes. I am willing to bet that to most liberals, the rich paying a higher percentage is neither moral nor immoral, but simply necessary.

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    Re: Progressive Grading in School

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    The results of progressively taxing grades, widely agreed by everyone here, results in the person receiving those grades, not getting a education, But merely getting grades.

    I'm trying to get people to think that shuffling grades is analogous to shuffling income, both resulting in no long term solution to learning, whether it be math or learning to provide for oneself.

    Do you now see the analogy I'm trying to make?
    That it is somewhat comparable?
    Sure they are somewhat comparable. Just like Mike Tyson and the straw man share some similarities. However, if you try and treat them the same in the real-world you are a fool. Government policy should be based on those real world results, not analogies.

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    Re: Progressive Grading in School

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    What I find interesting in this statement is that you are assigning a moral value to the rich paying more taxes. I am willing to bet that to most liberals, the rich paying a higher percentage is neither moral nor immoral, but simply necessary.
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