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    Re: Progressive Grading in School

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    So, you are filtering out the arguments that point out the difference between grading and income and then after that filtering going "see they are really the same!"? And you don't see the problem with this?
    no i am simply trying to avoid tautologies or people positing a system that predetermines the result. I want an honest explination rather than spin.

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    Re: Progressive Grading in School

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    no i am simply trying to avoid tautologies or people positing a system that predetermines the result. I want an honest explination rather than spin.
    Please demonstrate these tautologies that you believe people are committing.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...post1059449544 <-- here is a great (sarcasm) tautology where redress is pointing out a key difference between grades and taxes.

    oh wait, heres another! http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...post1059449553

    Here's an awful one that I committed! http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...post1059449651
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    Re: Progressive Grading in School

    The point of the educational system and taxation system is to provide optimum results. Trying to be "consistent" by ignoring pragmatic realities is moronic. The U.S. military is entirely inconsistent with the countries democratic values. Soldiers can be drafted against their will, are required to follow non-democratic authority under threat of punishment and even be sent to their deaths. In order to be "consistent" we would have to let soldiers vote for their commanders, ignore orders if they chose and let the military be sued for "providing an unsafe workplace".

    Government policy should be decided on the independent merits of the system. It doesn't matter if you have different strategies for education and taxation provided that they both work.

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    Re: Progressive Grading in School

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    as they currently pay no income taxes, i would rather think that that would be a good thing. 6 out of 10 households get more back than they pay in - that's just wrong. even if it's a progressive system, even if you are paying only 1%, you should still be paying the taxman something on April 15 for your use of the shared resources of governance, rather than just waiting to see how big your check from ole uncle sam is going to be.
    A flat tax isn't the way to solve that problem, I've said before, and I'll say it again, the biggest reason for the progressive tax is that 15% of 30,000 is worth more to that person then 15% of 1,000,000. The person making 30,000 is more likely going to spend up to, and possibly over that amount on just the basics, food, housing, clothing, etc. While the person making 1,000,000 isn't. A progressive tax is to make sure that the standard of living of the middle and lower classes don't go down, due to the tax. It would in the flat tax.
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    Re: Progressive Grading in School

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Please demonstrate these tautologies that you believe people are committing.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...post1059449544 <-- here is a great (sarcasm) tautology where redress is pointing out a key difference between grades and taxes.

    oh wait, heres another! http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...post1059449553
    It's not a comparison between grades and taxes.
    It's a comparison between grades and income, where both are considered final results and are progressively taxed to help those at the bottom of both scales.
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    Re: Progressive Grading in School

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    It IS refreshing to see that no one wants this unfair practice in place in schools.

    I'm for a flat tax rate as well. Everyone pays 12% (or whatever we decide is needed) of their income. No one gets to ride on anyone else's coattails. There should be no loopholes, no tax credits for "greening" your house, no hiding your income....nothing. Imagine how easy doing your taxes would be!
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    Re: Progressive Grading in School

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    It's not a comparison between grades and taxes.
    It's a comparison between grades and income, where both are considered final results and are progressively taxed to help those at the bottom of both scales.
    And when were grades ever taxed?
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    Re: Progressive Grading in School

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    It's not a comparison between grades and taxes.
    It's a comparison between grades and income, where both are considered final results and are progressively taxed to help those at the bottom of both scales.
    Redistribution of incomes of most often achieved through taxation.

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    Re: Progressive Grading in School

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    And when were grades ever taxed?
    That is why the question was asked, because they are not, currently.

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Redistribution of incomes of most often achieved through taxation.
    Yes I know and we could do the same thing with grades/GPA's.
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    Re: Progressive Grading in School

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    And imagine how much harder it would hit the lower, and middle classes.
    Of course it would hit the lower classes hard because they're used to not paying anything. If we're going to have an income tax, everyone who has an income should contribute.


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