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    Re: Progressive Grading in School

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    this bit is useful mostly as a model, to demonstrate a flaw in logic.
    Its generally not a good idea to use flawed logic to attempt to demonstrate other flaws logic though. Its just tends to fail in practice as people will pick it to pieces. This thread is a good example of that happening.
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    Re: Progressive Grading in School

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Good, there is always room in policy discussion on how to further optimize the system. I welcome this sort of discussion,
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    Re: Progressive Grading in School

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Its generally not a good idea to use flawed logic to attempt to demonstrate other flaws logic though. Its just tends to fail in practice as people will pick it to pieces. This thread is a good example of that happening.

    on the contrary. i have seen many people make the claim that you repeat; but i have yet to see anyone provide a reasonable principle that describes why we should treat grades as the property of the student but income as the property of society; when both come from similar (if not the same) swirl of complex factors.

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    Re: Progressive Grading in School

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    This isn't a trap thread and it's here to make you think.

    Would you support a system of grading, where the higher performing students have part of their grades distributed to lower performing students, in order for their (lower performing students) grades to be brought up to passing?

    This should be applied to all levels from Kindergarten-College/University.

    Explain your reasoning, behind your answer, please.
    NO! Please explain your logic for asking such a silly question.


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    Re: Progressive Grading in School

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    on the contrary. i have seen many people make the claim that you repeat; but i have yet to see anyone provide a reasonable principle that describes why we should treat grades as the property of the student but income as the property of society; when both come from similar (if not the same) swirl of complex factors.
    Reasonable, interesting qualifier there. So basically, they didn't say something you agreed with?

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    Re: Progressive Grading in School

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Reasonable, interesting qualifier there. So basically, they didn't say something you agreed with?
    i'm applying the kind of logic that the law seeks "a reasonable person" type stuff. to preclude canards such as "fine, my metric is whether or not the topic is income oops grades aren't income therefore it's totally not the same". i want to see a real, rational explanation for why we should treat income and grades differently, when both are the product of the same complex swirl of individual and social factors?

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    Re: Progressive Grading in School

    It IS refreshing to see that no one wants this unfair practice in place in schools.

    I'm for a flat tax rate as well. Everyone pays 12% (or whatever we decide is needed) of their income. No one gets to ride on anyone else's coattails. There should be no loopholes, no tax credits for "greening" your house, no hiding your income....nothing. Imagine how easy doing your taxes would be!


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    Re: Progressive Grading in School

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    It IS refreshing to see that no one wants this unfair practice in place in schools.

    I'm for a flat tax rate as well. Everyone pays 12% (or whatever we decide is needed) of their income. No one gets to ride on anyone else's coattails. There should be no loopholes, no tax credits for "greening" your house, no hiding your income....nothing. Imagine how easy doing your taxes would be!
    And imagine how much harder it would hit the lower, and middle classes.
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    Re: Progressive Grading in School

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    i'm applying the kind of logic that the law seeks "a reasonable person" type stuff. to preclude canards such as "fine, my metric is whether or not the topic is income oops grades aren't income therefore it's totally not the same". i want to see a real, rational explanation for why we should treat income and grades differently, when both are the product of the same complex swirl of individual and social factors?
    So, you are filtering out the arguments that point out the difference between grading and income and then after that filtering going "see they are really the same!"? And you don't see the problem with this?

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    Re: Progressive Grading in School

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    And imagine how much harder it would hit the lower, and middle classes.
    as they currently pay no income taxes, i would rather think that that would be a good thing. 6 out of 10 households get more back than they pay in - that's just wrong. even if it's a progressive system, even if you are paying only 1%, you should still be paying the taxman something on April 15 for your use of the shared resources of governance, rather than just waiting to see how big your check from ole uncle sam is going to be.

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