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Thread: Progressive Grading in School

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    Re: Progressive Grading in School

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Taxing income and grades progressively is the same effect, yes it is comparable.
    Take from the highest, to "boost" the lowest.

    Grades are not necessarily based on effort, sometimes it's choice and situation (see. Cheating), sometimes it's based on luck and situation, (see. parental involvement in education and facility standards).
    HG, you can compare any two things. That does not make it a good comparison. This is not a good comparison, any more than comparing bricks and airplanes.
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    Re: Progressive Grading in School

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    No, by your comparison, a lotto winner is smart and worked hard.
    Not at all, there are ALWAYS exceptions.
    As CC pointed out both income and education can be based on factors not directly linked to effort, etc.

    However, that does not justify taxing either for the exceptions.
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    Re: Progressive Grading in School

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post

    redress, why do you hate black people?
    The same reason you hate rich white people.
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    Re: Progressive Grading in School

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Not at all, there are ALWAYS exceptions.
    As CC pointed out both income and education can be based on factors not directly linked to effort, etc.

    However, that does not justify taxing either for the exceptions.
    Your example is nothing but exceptions.
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    Re: Progressive Grading in School

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Your example is nothing but exceptions.
    Since when?

    Are most rich people rich because they were given it, or did they work for it?
    Do most people with high grades earn it or did they cheat the whole time?
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    Re: Progressive Grading in School

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    You are using the word "progressive" in non-comparable ways. Income is not necessarily based on effort, either. Sometimes it's based on choice and situation. Income is not necessarily based on intelligence. Sometimes it is based on luck and situation. Grades do not necessarily have an impact on sucess. Your thread is so full of inconsistencies and inaccurate analogies, I could drive a truck through it. You wanted to make a point. You don't like progressive tax. OK. We get that. That's what you want to talk about, so go ahead. Don't play these kinds of games.
    To add:

    No I didn't say I hated progressive taxes.
    I really found this compelling and thought it would make for a good debate.

    And I was right.
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    Re: Progressive Grading in School

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The same reason you hate rich white people.
    actually haymarket will tell you that i love rich white people.

    but the policy i have posited here is designed to help our disadvantaged minority students. according to the common logic presented in our political dialogue, your opposition means you must want to harm those minority students.

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    Re: Progressive Grading in School

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    To add:

    No I didn't say I hated progressive taxes.
    I really found this compelling and thought it would make for a good debate.

    And I was right.
    Now you're being dishonest, Harry. Read your posts. You are certainly against progressive taxes. That was the point of this thread.

    And good debate? Sure, if you consider dicsussing and determining that you created a trap thread in order to discuss progressive taxes a good debate.
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    Re: Progressive Grading in School

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    actually haymarket will tell you that i love rich white people.

    but the policy i have posited here is designed to help our disadvantaged minority students. according to the common logic presented in our political dialogue, your opposition means you must want to harm those minority students.
    Most of us are not really talking about education. We are talking about the fatally flawed comparison of taxes and grades.
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    Re: Progressive Grading in School

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Now you're being dishonest, Harry. Read your posts. You are certainly against progressive taxes. That was the point of this thread.

    And good debate? Sure, if you consider dicsussing and determining that you created a trap thread in order to discuss progressive taxes a good debate.
    If I designed a tax structure, it would still be progressive.
    Just not like it is now.

    Damn it, I really really really had no intention of this being a trap.
    Maybe I should of done it differently, but I was trying to be very implicit in my use of "Progressive" with the capitalization and the add on that I wanted to challenge beliefs and all that.
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