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Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

Are gay people "abnormal"?


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I do too! And then I wonder. Do I notice because so few are left-handed, or because I am?

I notice because I am, and I further note what kind of pen they're using. Being close to the problems lefties deal with every day makes me sensitive to it. I imagine that if I were right handed, that writing in general would be a non-issue, and I probably might not notice left handers.
 
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I'm a lefty too. I also notice other left handed people and for some reason I observe how they hold their pen/pencil.
 
How did you decide what you like?

Because I decided long ago that I like those that write like we speak rather than write to make themselves seem more intelligent. This is easy to recognize and I appreciate it. Next question? I can go all day....
 
Because I decided long ago that I like those that write like we speak rather than write to make themselves seem more intelligent. This is easy to recognize and I appreciate it. Next question? I can go all day....

That was still based on your preferences, could you conciously like a bunch of elitist, pretentious authors?
 
Because I decided long ago that I like those that write like we speak rather than write to make themselves seem more intelligent. This is easy to recognize and I appreciate it. Next question? I can go all day....

You answered my question with the same statement. I asked you how you decided and you answered "I decided". Let me rephrase the question: how did know that you liked these writers?
 
Feeling combative, I see.

Ooh. Perfect sig for gay peeps. "To be yourself in a world that is constantly trying to make you something else is the greatest accomplishment. - Ralph Waldo Emerson"
 
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I'm a lefty too. I also notice other left handed people and for some reason I observe how they hold their pen/pencil.

Yes, absolutely. Sometimes, when it feels comfortable to talk about, I approach the topic of why a leftie holds the pen in an awkward fashion, rather than simply a mirror image of a right-hander.

I've learned to hold a pen as a mirror image, but that requires me to be very picky in the pen that I use.
 
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Me too! But I'm a mirror-image holder.
 
That was still based on your preferences, could you conciously like a bunch of elitist, pretentious authors?

Does Thoreau count? If so, yes....or perhaps Hugo?
 
Mac, just as soon as you will yourself to be a woman, I'll believe that being gay is a choice.
 
I do too! And then I wonder. Do I notice because so few are left-handed, or because I am?

I'm right-handed, but for some reason I do notice when people are left-handed. I wouldn't consider something abnormal just because it sticks out though. It also depends on one's breadth of experience. Two stray dogs ****ing on a sidewalk might seem abnormal to some, but I've been to places where it's a common occurrence.
 
You answered my question with the same statement. I asked you how you decided and you answered "I decided". Let me rephrase the question: how did know that you liked these writers?

Repeat: How did you know that you liked these writers?
 
I'm right-handed, but for some reason I do notice when people are left-handed. I wouldn't consider something abnormal just because it sticks out though. It also depends on one's breadth of experience. Two stray dogs ****ing on a sidewalk might seem abnormal to some, but I've been to places where it's a common occurrence.

I've been to places where two stray people ****ing on the sidewalk is fairly common.
 
Repeat: How did you know that you liked these writers?

Because I evaluated writing styles and made a conscious decision on that which I liked, and that which I did not like.
 
Because I evaluated writing styles and made a conscious decision on that which I liked, and that which I did not like.

Okay, I can see you're going to dance around this.

We know that we like things because they make us feel pleasure. We do not choose to have that feeling. The reason you like author X is because the writing style of author X makes you feel pleasure. You didn't choose to feel that pleasure, just like gay people don't choose to feel pleasure looking at attractive members of the same sex.
 
Okay, I can see you're going to dance around this.

We know that we like things because they make us feel pleasure. We do not choose to have that feeling. The reason you like author X is because the writing style of author X makes you feel pleasure. You didn't choose to feel that pleasure, just like gay people don't choose to feel pleasure looking at attractive members of the same sex.

Bull****.....do some people like asparagus because they have no control over their tastes or because they made a decision that they like it? We all have the same tastebuds afterall. You sell the human brain short when you say we have no control over our likes and dislikes. I suppose you would relegate us all to the status of chimps or gorillas.
 
Perhaps I would agree, but what of those that disagree with homosexuality without need of "disliking" gays?

I don't equate disliking with fear. The fear is in the difference, in the unknown... it can stem from religion or prejudice or anything else, and I would say that most of these people, like most people in general, are not aware of the fear and just pass it off with justification arguments about normal or choice or religion or whatever. It does not make these people bad at all either, unless they are being rude or hurting others, obviously...
 
Bull****.....do some people like asparagus because they have no control over their tastes or because they made a decision that they like it? We all have the same tastebuds afterall. You sell the human brain short when you say we have no control over our likes and dislikes. I suppose you would relegate us all to the status of chimps or gorillas.

It seems like you dislike my comment. Did you chose to dislike my comment or did you just feel displeasure upon reading it?
 
Bull****.....do some people like asparagus because they have no control over their tastes or because they made a decision that they like it? We all have the same tastebuds afterall. You sell the human brain short when you say we have no control over our likes and dislikes. I suppose you would relegate us all to the status of chimps or gorillas.

[quizzical look] We like what we like, no conscious decision involved. I know you have children. You've never seen them be physically ill because they were forced to eat something they couldn't stomach?
 
I wish I'd known it was this easy. I could just say "Right, then! Honey, this is liver. You'll like liver. You just need to believe you like liver, and you will."

Does this also mean the "Think and grow rich" mentality works just the same?
 
So you have control over these....preferences?

Controlling our preferences does not mean that we still don't have said preferences...
 
Bull****.....do some people like asparagus because they have no control over their tastes or because they made a decision that they like it? We all have the same tastebuds afterall. You sell the human brain short when you say we have no control over our likes and dislikes. I suppose you would relegate us all to the status of chimps or gorillas.

Wait, so you are saying that all I have to do is "choose" to like passion fruit and I will like it? I won't scrunch my face up in some disgusted sour face if I only "choose" to like it? Since we all have the same taste buds, I have "chosen" to not like passion fruit some time in my past and have simply forgotten this "choice"? Seriously?

I think that you give way too much power to the idea of choice. Are yo usaying that you chose to be heterosexual, forgive me if I missed this mac.
 
I don't typically perform a technical diagnostic of my 'definitions' before hand. I take the question, give my answer, and then look back on why I gave that answer.

I would say that 'abnormal' to me is anything which stands out or catches the eye. In general, 2 people of the same sex kissing catches attention, just as I take notice every single time I encounter a southpaw.

I can't say I'm using a given set of parameters, it's more of a gut reaction then a well thought out technical dissertation.

You know what is odd? I have been around gay people since I was 7ish, and I have not actually seen gay couples kiss all that often, probably alot less than I have seen strait couples kiss(per couple, not overall). I know a couple gays who are kinda in your face, but they seem very rare. Most gay people I have known you would not know without them telling you or being friends with them.
 
It seems like you dislike my comment. Did you chose to dislike my comment or did you just feel displeasure upon reading it?

I don't dislike it, I disagree with it. Hence the bull**** flag.
 
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