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Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

Are gay people "abnormal"?

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Wake said:
Technically it's abnormal because there are many more "normal" people who don't live that lifestyle. Abnormal does not equal wrong. However, It is abnormal, and I believe it wrong based on my religious beliefs.
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Homosexuality is abnormal. Gay people as individuals are only as abnormal as everyone else, which makes them normal, since their sexuality is only one of their traits.
 
theplaydrive said:
Homosexuality is abnormal. Gay people as individuals are only as abnormal as everyone else, which makes them normal, since their sexuality is only one of their traits.
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And I can understand your belief, yet respectfully disagree with it.
 
Wake said:
And I can understand your belief, yet respectfully disagree with it.
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I think TPD's point is that the poll question is "Are gay people abnormal," not "is homosexuality abnormal." If we all use the statistical definition of abnormal, then every individual is abnormal to some degree. For many people homosexuality is only one of their traits and only a part of their identity.
 
StillBallin75 said:
I think TPD's point is that the poll question is "Are gay people abnormal," not "is homosexuality abnormal." If we all use the statistical definition of abnormal, then every individual is abnormal to some degree. For many people homosexuality is only one of their traits and only a part of their identity.
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This is true. Everyone is abnormal to some extent. We individuals aren't made of one select element, but many. Doesn't change my stance that I believe homosexualty is a sin. Then again, I think there are many sins out there from those on the left to greed and selfishness on the right... I digress.
 
Wake said:
And I can understand your belief, yet respectfully disagree with it.
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SB clarified it well. My point is not really a "belief". It's a fact that every human being has one or more traits that would be considered "abnormal". For gay people, homosexuality is their abnormal trait.
 
Wake said:
This is true. Everyone is abnormal to some extent. We individuals aren't made of one select element, but many. Doesn't change my stance that I believe homosexualty is a sin. Then again, I think there are many sins out there from those on the left to greed and selfishness on the right... I digress.
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I wasn't trying to counter your belief that it's a sin. I don't believe it's a sin, but I don't know God, so I'm not in any position to try to convince you to accept my belief. I was just pointing out that gay people likely have the same amount of abnormality as everyone else.
 
I'm of the belief that everyone is abnormal in a way and that everyone sins.
 
theplaydrive said:
SB clarified it well. My point is not really a "belief". It's a fact that every human being has one or more traits that would be considered "abnormal". For gay people, homosexuality is their abnormal trait.
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I don't believe people are born with that trait/gene/DNA/whatever.
 
theplaydrive said:
SB clarified it well. My point is not really a "belief". It's a fact that every human being has one or more traits that would be considered "abnormal". For gay people, homosexuality is their abnormal trait.
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What is the genetic agent of this abnormal trait?
 
I don't think there is, but male and female are required to bring forth new life.

If I were coming from a hardcore athiestic/evolutional standpoint, I'd say homosexuals were engaging in a freakish fantasy that has gained much popularity.
 
Your Star said:
Exactly, we need to study sexuality in general, not just homosexuality.
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Ok, but it's not my postion...it's tpd's. I'm asking for some clarification on said abnormal homosexual "trait"?
 
theplaydrive said:
I don't know. Why are you asking and what relevance does it have to my statement?
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I'm looking for how you substantiate this abnormal trait, that is all.
 
mac said:
I'm looking for how you substantiate this abnormal trait, that is all.
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Is sexuality not a trait? It's just a trait like intelligence, creativity, temperament, etc.
 
Wake said:
This is true. Everyone is abnormal to some extent. We individuals aren't made of one select element, but many. Doesn't change my stance that I believe homosexualty is a sin. Then again, I think there are many sins out there from those on the left to greed and selfishness on the right... I digress.
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Homosexuality is an identity, not an act, Wake. Do you believe the state of homosexuality to be a sin? Or do you believe the ACT to be a sin?
 
StillBallin75 said:
Homosexuality is an identity, not an act, Wake. Do you believe the state of homosexuality to be a sin? Or do you believe the ACT to be a sin?
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I believe it is not an identity. Based on my religious beliefs, I do not think God would make people born under said identity while also having multiple scriptures that state it is a sin. I believe it is a lifestyle one willfully chooses and I believe it and the act to be sin. However, I view it as less important sin that is still one none-the-less.
 
Wake said:
I believe it is not an identity. Based on my religious beliefs, I do not think God would make people born under said identity while also having multiple scriptures that state it is a sin. I believe it is a lifestyle one willfully chooses and I believe it and the act to be sin. However, I view it as less important sin that is still one none-the-less.
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What evidence do you have that it is a choice?
 
theplaydrive said:
What evidence do you have that it is a choice?
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What evidence do you have that it isn't?

We don't know for sure. However, I have faith in my Christian religion.
 
Wake said:
I believe it is not an identity. Based on my religious beliefs, I do not think God would make people born under said identity while also having multiple scriptures that state it is a sin. I believe it is a lifestyle one willfully chooses and I believe it and the act to be sin. However, I view it as less important sin that is still one none-the-less.
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Why would any person "choose" to be gay? It doesn't exactly come with a lot of perks.

What evidence do I have that it isn't a choice? I have many friends that are gay. Some of them, due to their own religious beliefs or that of their families and relatives, have tried like hell to change, so as to be accepted. It is not something that can be wilfully done.
 
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Wake said:
What evidence do you have that it isn't?

We don't know for sure. However, I have faith in my Christian religion.
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Where does the Bible say that it is a choice?
 
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