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Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

Are gay people "abnormal"?

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Sheik Yerbuti said:
Exactly the point I'm trying to make. For homosexuals to reproduce, they have to either resort to fertility treatments (a relatively recent procedure) or they have to resort to going against they're natural instinct and have sex with someone of the opposite gender, which I imagine they find as gross as heterosexuals feel about homosexual sex.

That is why my position on this is -- if homosexuality were normal, humankind would have become extinct long ago.
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That is precisely my position. I have no hate towards Gays, I dont dislike them as a group although I can dislike individuals.
I wish them no harm and NEVER in my life did I ever abuse anyone for being gay. To be honest here, "If im allowed" Ive always felt sorry for them.
 
Redress said:
Some day it will just be "having sex", without qualifiers like "strait" or "gay" or "acceptable" or "perverse" or "normal" or "abnormal".
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No it wont..
 
lpast said:
That is precisely my position. I have no hate towards Gays, I dont dislike them as a group although I can dislike individuals.
I wish them no harm and NEVER in my life did I ever abuse anyone for being gay. To be honest here, "If im allowed" Ive always felt sorry for them.
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Feeling sorry for them is a misplaced feeling. Gays are perfectly happy as heterosexual people, after all they are gay right.
 
SheWolf said:
Not reproducing is not a bad thing... Overpopulation can kill us all, besides we have one Nadya Sulemen which is more than enough
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Not producing is a choice, its not natural for it to be a way of life
 
SheWolf said:
I am straight and I don't want to have any kids... I might adopt. Honestly, why have kids and push reproduction when so many children need homes and families? I'll never understand that. I am not hurting society by not reproducing... :roll:
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No your not its your choice...
 
winston53660 said:
Feeling sorry for them is a misplaced feeling. Gays are perfectly happy as heterosexual people, after all they are gay right.
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A lot of gays are not happy at all. They have a much higher suicide rate than their heterosexual counterparts. They also are known to have a higher rate of illicit drug use. That doesn't spell 'happiness' to me.
 
SheWolf said:
So it's important for me to ask, do you understand that overpopulation can drive a species to extinction? Putting too much stress on our food and water resources can extinct them, and eventually have consequences for our entire species. Promoting growth and reproduction is not a good thing... Overpopulation can have serve and negative consequences. China for example would kill children because of overpopulation.
Also, to suggest that we were forced to live in caves and not be able to reproduce suggests that homosexuals don't even care about the species...
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I want to say never but I am not ready to live in a cave or lean to.

We have been through horrendous times in the past. The probability of it happening again is ... well, likely. Ice Age good movie

Destructive forces are a natural population force, for every living thing on the planet. There is no shortage of method or certainly means with man's ability now.

Without coring deep enough many, many times around the planet we have no idea or way of knowing how many times one destructive force or another has occured. Pompeii was unknown of before it was "discovered."

SheWolf said:
1. We don't need clinics to reproduce without sexual intercourse. We need semen and a vagina.
2. The rate of reproduction would depend on the number of women to men.
3. If a group of men were that concerned about reproducing in such a crisis, they could very well resort to rape which is why your attitude is jacked up.
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3. I have a feeling that assumption is flawed. Women have always gone to extremes like men. If need be she might kill herself to keep from having a baby. If humans were waning, I have a feeling even you would want to reproduce eventually. IE your local population is few at best... last man last woman? that you knew of?
2. A given, but females are more common in birth. Or did it change?
1. Definately not, but refusal to accept something and desire are strong motivators.

Science has a god complex, there is just no two ways about it.

SheWolf said:
Bottom line is, homosexuals do care about the survival of the human race and reproduction rates are far from being the only thing you should be concerned about.
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If they did not care, they would not be human.
 
I went to high school with a lot of pregnant girls. I remember my mother would joke she'd be relieved if I told I was a lesbian, because she wouldn't have to worry about me. She was always offering to take me to get birth control, and I didn't even have a boyfriend... :doh:
 
Jaaaman said:
A lot of gays are not happy at all. They have a much higher suicide rate than their heterosexual counterparts. They also are known to have a higher rate of illicit drug use. That doesn't spell 'happiness' to me.
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If you loook at almost any sub group of a population a % of something will most likely be higher be it drug use, alcoholism or genetic defects. Especially when that sub group has been demonized and been treated as outcasts.

My gay friends for the most part are mentally healthy and are socially functional within normal parameters.
 
winston53660 said:
Feeling sorry for them is a misplaced feeling. Gays are perfectly happy as heterosexual people, after all they are gay right.
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See here is where the group creates chaos for it's own.

I have no doubts on the influence factor, and the woes it can induce.

Bobby McFerrin Dont worry be happy... just dont ignore... makes things fester
 
SheWolf said:
I went to high school with a lot of pregnant girls. I remember my mother would joke she'd be relieved if I told I was a lesbian, because she wouldn't have to worry about me. She was always offering to take me to get birth control, and I didn't even have a boyfriend... :doh:
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Mom knew back then about the spur of the moment.
 
as if said:
See here is where the group creates chaos for it's own.

I have no doubts on the influence factor, and the woes it can induce.

Bobby McFerrin Dont worry be happy... just dont ignore... makes things fester
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You should probably take your own advice.
 
as if said:
Denial serves no one, least of all the one who denies.

I have a feeling you know some of those people
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Who doesn't? And I don't see what this has to do with the topic at hand.
 
winston53660 said:
Who doesn't? And I don't see what this has to do with the topic at hand.
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Well you dont seem happy after making a play on the word.

Gee you just reminded me too, I knew a guy well in the 70's and begining of the 80's.

Talk was he was gay, he never said anything. Heard within the last year or so he commited suicide.
 
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as if said:
Well you dont seem happy after making a play on the word.
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Do you expect people to read your mind. I haven't a clue as to what you are talking about.
 
The ole comming out thing, lets ppl know puts more pressure on a person. Did he have to come out?
 
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I have always thought of the word "abnormal" as having negative connotations. I try not to use it normally to describe people at all, because I think it is wrong to describe people as abnormal.

As for whether a trait is "normal" or not, I think that it has to be in comparison to someone or something to make such a determination. It is normal for homosexuals to exist in society, any society, but it is not normal for homosexuals to be a large part of the population. In fact, I would say that it would be abnormal for a society to have no homosexuals (unless it was a very small society).
 
kaya'08 said:
So i will reword my statement. Gov should restrict the rights of "abnormal" things?
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No it should not restrict Inherent rights, but it should not allow SPECIAL rights on any group, thats the whole point of contention.
 
lpast said:
No it should not restrict Inherent rights, but it should not allow SPECIAL rights on any group, thats the whole point of contention.
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What special rights are those?
 
Originally Posted by as if
The ole comming out thing



winston53660 said:
I still don't have a clue what you are talking about:roll:
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What part do you not understand?





By now most ppl would have formed questions to ask, not a repeated same ole same ole.




IF and I dont see how not, you are trolling me, fist sense known on net, I will flame you till your feet burn.

I have a feeling you are the sort up for the challange, and from what I make of the rules, it can be done in the spirit of the exchange between us for all intents and puroposes.

Do not try my patience again. Some bridges were MADE to be burned.
 
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as if said:
Originally Posted by as if
The ole comming out thing





What part do you not understand?





By now most ppl would have formed questions to ask, not a repeated same ole same ole.




IF and I dont see how not, you are trolling me, fist sense known on net, I will flame you till your feet burn.

I have a feeling you are the sort up for the challange, and from what I make of the rules, it can be done in the spirit of the exchange between us for all intents and puroposes.

Do not try my patience again. Some bridges were MADE to be burned.
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If I have to state that you're being hard to comprehend, then you are being so. Being comprehendable is an asset; obscurity is a liability.
 
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