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Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

Are gay people "abnormal"?

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Jetboogieman said:
No state should be in the business of denying people rights due to sexual orentation.
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i agree. but i don't really see where that has anything to do with DOMA.
 
cpwill said:
i agree. but i don't really see where that has anything to do with DOMA.
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Well except to say DOMA is a federally mandated denial of rights due to sexual orientation.

An even more serious problem.
 
Jetboogieman said:
No state should be in the business of denying people rights due to sexual orentation.
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The biggest problem is that homosexuals literally push their abnormality to mentally sound people.

Homosexuals know that their are ill, therefore they want to transform entirely society to a mentally hospital.

5741 years long in all countries by all peoples homosexuality was considered as mentally illness and sin, but today homosexual mafia
claims that homosexuality is not only fine but also better as normal sexual behavior. That is abhorrent.
 
Jetboogieman said:
Well except to say DOMA is a federally mandated denial of rights due to sexual orientation.
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which if course, is a rather hotly debated matter.


but one perhaps better suited to the sex and sexuality forums, where it seems to make up nearly 85% of the discussion.
 
Paschendale said:
Let me check. Breathes oxygen? Check. Red blood cells? Yep. Communicates with the same sounds as everyone else? Mmhmm. Subject to all the same psychological and emotional stimuli? Big yes.

Looks pretty normal to me.
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Using comparitives.

Example Engine: yes
Operational: yes
Application intened: No

No different with gay regardless of simularity.

Human: yes
Sexual Orintation: No
Reproduction: No
 
Alfons said:
The biggest problem is that homosexuals literally push their abnormality to mentally sound people.

Homosexuals know that their are ill, therefore they want to transform entirely society to a mentally hospital.

5741 years long in all countries by all peoples homosexuality was considered as mentally illness and sin, but today homosexual mafia
claims that homosexuality is not only fine but also better as normal sexual behavior. That is abhorrent.
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This whole post is just...

Well.

Ironic.
 
Originally Posted by Paschendale
Yeah, and? The discussion at hand is "normality". Brutality and violence are certainly normal for human beings.


cpwill said:
charles manson is not normal. the definition you have provided is so open as to be meaningless.
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What is being asked about gays is a personality trait. An action performed by them.

Violence, and Charity are both acts of personality traits.
 
Originally Posted by Alfons
The biggest problem is that homosexuals literally push their abnormality to mentally sound people.

Homosexuals know that their are ill, therefore they want to transform entirely society to a mentally hospital.

5741 years long in all countries by all peoples homosexuality was considered as mentally illness and sin, but today homosexual mafia
claims that homosexuality is not only fine but also better as normal sexual behavior. That is abhorrent.


Jetboogieman said:
This whole post is just...

Well.

Ironic.
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Perhaps, but it is what happens when two opposing sides meet and neither will give in to the other or compormise.
 
as if said:
Perhaps, but it is what happens when two opposing sides meet and neither will give in to the other or compormise.
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OK, a Compromise:

Homosexuals will stay home and do not push homosexuality to schools, medias, churches etc. as a "normal" life stile.
Non-homosexuals will forget about their existence.
 
StillBallin75 said:
global facts don't exist

unnatural rights pertain to intellectual property, not homosexuality

I have no idea what as if is ranting about at this point.
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Understanding the meanings of words is esential.

Unnatural rights...

It is an unnatrual right to damage, infringe upon, or take someone's property.

Someone who believes they have a right to rape is unnatural.

These two examples are undeiable truths.
 
Originally Posted by as if
Perhaps, but it is what happens when two opposing sides meet and neither will give in to the other or compormise.


Alfons said:
OK, a Compromise:

Homosexuals will stay home and do not push homosexuality to schools, medias, churches etc. as a "normal" life stile.
Non-homosexuals will forget about their existence.
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I have stated that to the very same ppl who you argue with. Unfortunatly it leads us right back to no compromise because they and others are unwilling, in any manner that I have seen, to make a compromise.
 
as if said:
Perhaps, but it is what happens when two opposing sides meet and neither will give in to the other or compormise.
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Compromise...

Where does Alfons want to compromise...

He thinks all gays are mentally ill and trying to make everybody mentally ill by forcing them all to be mentally ill... or something.

Yep, there's compromise in there somewhere...

Or not.
 
Wake said:
Exactly. Thank you.

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The more important question is the definition of "abnormal". Once we pin that down, we can move on from there. "Normal" is merely as subjective as are the terms "good, art, evil," etc.
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The correct word or at least one, would be abberation.
 
Jetboogieman said:
Compromise...

Where does Alfons want to compromise...

He thinks all gays are mentally ill and trying to make everybody mentally ill by forcing them all to be mentally ill... or something.

Yep, there's compromise in there somewhere...

Or not.
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Naw, he posted one :D
Cant say I know him but it's a good start on mediation.
 
cpwill said:
wow. well, gosh. :) thanks for letting me be free enough to express my opinion.
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I'm just saying, you said it was a state issue and implied somehow therefore not your place to express your opinion on that particular issue. So rather than tiddy taddying around the question why wont you just answer it?
 
kaya'08 said:
I'm just saying, you said it was a state issue and implied somehow therefore not your place to express your opinion on that particular issue. So rather than tiddy taddying around the question why wont you just answer it?
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ah. well, for my state i would vote against it. but if vermont wants to have a referndum on the deal, that's their business.
 
cpwill said:
ah. well, for my state i would vote against it. but if vermont wants to have a referndum on the deal, that's their business.
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So i will reword my statement. Gov should restrict the rights of "abnormal" things?
 
kaya'08 said:
So i will reword my statement. Gov should restrict the rights of "abnormal" things?
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not as you have it worded, no. giving away 80% of your income to charity is also abnormal.
 
cpwill said:
charles manson is not normal. the definition you have provided is so open as to be meaningless.
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to be fair, calling gay people abnormal makes the definition meaningless as well since you're basing the abnormality of a whole person on a single trait. by that logic, every single person is abnormal since we all have at least one abnormal trait and the term becomes meaningless.
 
theplaydrive said:
to be fair, calling gay people abnormal makes the definition meaningless as well since you're basing the abnormality of a whole person on a single trait.
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:shrug: it seemed to me the question was specifically aimed at their identity as gay people.
 
cpwill said:
not as you have it worded, no. giving away 80% of your income to charity is also abnormal.
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Yes and i suspect the reason that isn't outlawed is because it doesn't harm you and it has nothing to do with you if i decided to give away 80% of my income to charity.

Just like it doesn't harm you if members of the same sex want to marry. So you have no legitimate argument to want to restrict there rights.

Gosh, the far right moan and whine about big daddy government (like the teabaggers) and go about trying to impose there view on the world onto everyone. Consistency much?
 
cpwill said:
:shrug: it seemed to me the question was specifically aimed at their identity as gay people.
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Exactly, if not it could be worded are happy/jovial people abnormal?
 
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