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Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

Are gay people "abnormal"?

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kaya'08 said:
Its a legitimate point. Sorry you cant see that.
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What he meant was that it was not the point he was making. He was not calling for the government to outlaw anything in this thread. He was simply and directly answering a question. He is, in that way, absolutely correct in that you made a straw man.
 
Redress said:
What he meant was that it was not the point he was making. He was not calling for the government to outlaw anything in this thread. He was simply and directly answering a question. He is, in that way, absolutely correct in that you made a straw man.
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So Alfons believe gay people should be extended equal rights and be allowed to marry? I dont think so.
 
kaya'08 said:
So Alfons believe gay people should be extended equal rights and be allowed to marry? I dont think so.
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Irrelevant to the point cp made.
 
kaya'08 said:
Its a legitimate point. Sorry you cant see that.
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no, it's an idiotic point, for many reasons - not least of which is the fact that no one on this thread has suggested either of the two hypberbolic screeches that you have posted.
 
Redress said:
Irrelevant to the point cp made.
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No it isn't. Because if you cant recognize homosexual individuals, extend to them rights as individuals in society and let them marry like straight couples you may as well outlaw it, all on the pretext that it is "abnormal".
 
kaya'08 said:
No it isn't. Because if you cant recognize homosexual individuals, extend to them rights as individuals in society and let them marry like straight couples you may as well outlaw it, all on the pretext that it is "abnormal".
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we really need a "don't feed the troll" emoticon.
 
cpwill said:
no, it's an idiotic point, for many reasons - not least of which is the fact that no one on this thread has suggested either of the two hypberbolic screeches that you have posted.
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Considering the guy is convinced Islam is here to take over the world and that Western society is targeting the white man, i dont think it would be hard to string together the emboldened when talking about alfons.
 
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kaya'08 said:
All the anti-gay bigots are like "ITS A DISABILITY ITS A DISEASE" and then they go "OUTLAW IT".

Wait - outlaw a disability/disease? Damn you sound stupid!
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Yeah, but if you think there's outrage when people talk about outlawing it, you should hear what happens when people suggest curing it.

Bruce said:
Which drive in particular?
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Their sex drive. They are not sexually attracted to people of the opposite sex, which all of the typical instinctual cues that generate sexual attraction are based on. Their sexual instincts are malfunctioning.

Which leads me to think that scientific studies on sexual attraction in homosexuals are required, if for nothing more than idle curiosity.
 
Let me check. Breathes oxygen? Check. Red blood cells? Yep. Communicates with the same sounds as everyone else? Mmhmm. Subject to all the same psychological and emotional stimuli? Big yes.

Looks pretty normal to me.
 
Viktyr Korimir said:
Yeah, but if you think there's outrage when people talk about outlawing it, you should hear what happens when people suggest curing it.



Their sex drive. They are not sexually attracted to people of the opposite sex, which all of the typical instinctual cues that generate sexual attraction are based on. Their sexual instincts are malfunctioning.

Which leads me to think that scientific studies on sexual attraction in homosexuals are required, if for nothing more than idle curiosity.
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I do not know that it is a good idea to "cure" people who have been alive for many years and already have developed a personality and a sense of who they are. Are you sure people would be as outraged at the idea of targeting homosexual genes in children?
 
kaya'08 said:
Considering the guy is convinced Islam is here to take over the world and that Western society is targeting the white man, i dont think it would be hard to string together the emboldened when talking about alfons.
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1. neither of those positions has anything to do with the claim that the government should outlaw the abnormal.

2. Islam is here to take over the world. So is Christianity. it's sort of in their founding creeds. Judaism isn't because it's largely inward-looking and defined to a certain tribe, but Islam and Christianity are both openly universalistic. Islam even claims that all people are - in fact - apostates, as they are born Muslim, but convert to other faiths as they age. hard to get more universalistic than that.
 
whysoserious said:
I do not know that it is a good idea to "cure" people who have been alive for many years and already have developed a personality and a sense of who they are. Are you sure people would be as outraged at the idea of targeting homosexual genes in children?
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That's the next step. Gay genetic screening. Dear god.
 
Paschendale said:
Let me check. Breathes oxygen? Check. Red blood cells? Yep. Communicates with the same sounds as everyone else? Mmhmm. Subject to all the same psychological and emotional stimuli? Big yes.

Looks pretty normal to me.
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breathes oxygen, has red blood, speaks english:

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Redress said:
For how you define the word "abnormal", do you consider gays to be "abnormal"?
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Considering my Apostolic/Pentecostal Christian religion, no. I believe we all sin from the whitest lie to the largest massacre. Do I believe it's a sin? Yes. Abnormal? No. Why? Sin is normal to us humans, in my opinion.

Though some of the things gay pro-gay activists do are somewhat odd, as in parading down a street in lime-green Borat-like speedos.
 
Viktyr Korimir said:
Their sex drive. They are not sexually attracted to people of the opposite sex, which all of the typical instinctual cues that generate sexual attraction are based on. Their sexual instincts are malfunctioning.

Which leads me to think that scientific studies on sexual attraction in homosexuals are required, if for nothing more than idle curiosity.
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When humans evolved from apes, the sexual cues that males got from females had to evolve, and it is strongly suspected this is why women have enlarged breasts. The enlarged breasts are shaped(vaguely) like buttocks. This all happened fairly recently in evolutionary terms. Changes in sex drives and what people find attractive do change evolutionarily, and evolution can account for homosexuality.
 
It depends on how you define abnormal.
 
Redress said:
I am not defining abnormal. That is up to you to do.
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By my definition. I don't believe gay people are abnormal, but I do believe that homosexuality is abnormal.
 
I think it is abnormal... Definitely not "normal" to me.

I'm all for gay rights and such, but i think there is no question that its not really what nature intended, but hey we do a lot of things that are not intended for it's original purpose.
 
celticwar17 said:
I think it is abnormal... Definitely not "normal" to me.

I'm all for gay rights and such, but i think there is no question that its not really what nature intended, but hey we do a lot of things that are not intended for it's original purpose.
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It's basically the belief that if it feels good, do it.

That's also why we have Emo/Goth people.
 
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