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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Rape is common in some mammal species. It is abnormal among civilized humans, and should remain so.
    Was this meant to be in the rape thread(s), or no? Seems like a good fit, either way.

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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Rape is common in some mammal species. It is abnormal among civilized humans, and should remain so.
    I hear being gay is like pedophilia or incest or zoophilia, or even rape lately.

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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    I hear being gay is like pedophilia or incest or zoophilia, or even rape lately.
    The wise thing to do would be to not bring the animal comparison into any arguments about gay rights. It doesn't serve much of any purpose except to reinforce certain logical fallacies.
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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    The wise thing to do would be to not bring the animal comparison into any arguments about gay rights. It doesn't serve much of any purpose except to reinforce certain logical fallacies.
    That in both humans and animals being of nature and homosexuality occuring across its entire spectrum would be logically fallable in the face of flacid notions of human morals or civility trumping nature?

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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    That in both humans and animals being of nature and homosexuality occuring across its entire spectrum would be logically fallable in the face of flacid notions of human morals or civility trumping nature?
    The fallacy is that because it exists in animals, it is somehow "natural" in humans. Now of course i'm not saying it's NOT natural in humans, but it's a false comparison because animals engage in a lot of other behaviors that humans these days would find "unnatural." (like for instance, eating your own **** like I saw goats do when I volunteered at the National Zoo).
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Sorry sparky having sex with the same sex is gay.
    Not in all cases when talking about the animal kingdom. This is a scientific fact as some can change gender etc.

    My name is Blackdog, not Sparky.

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    What is ridiculous is your initial comparison of reptiles to mammals. Alligators are reptiles.
    Not when you look at the context of what I said and his statement. Then again "context" has always been a difficult concept for some to grasp.

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    And here is alist of homosexual behavior in reptiles:

    List of animals displaying homosexual behavior - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    According to who? Some anonymous poster on Wikipedia?
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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    That in both humans and animals being of nature and homosexuality occuring across its entire spectrum would be logically fallable in the face of flacid notions of human morals or civility trumping nature?
    Animals display such behavior for very different reasons than humans. Even scientists agree on this point.
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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Animals display such behavior for very different reasons than humans. Even scientists agree on this point.
    They do? Which is what?
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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    According to who? Some anonymous poster on Wikipedia?

    Then prove it wrong instead of just attacking the source

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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    The wise thing to do would be to not bring the animal comparison into any arguments about gay rights. It doesn't serve much of any purpose except to reinforce certain logical fallacies.
    The ideas of morality are often based on logical fallacies. When one says that homosexuality is not abnormal because it is common in the animal kingdom, one is not implying that cannibolism or rape is morally acceptable although it may be common.
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