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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Almost. There is no proof either way, but there is more evidence on the side of people being born gay, straight, or bi (which is pretty much what I said). The studies indicate that likelihoods increase for a person being gay or bi within certain families. This is all nature vs. nurture. You can put your hands in your ears (or over your eyes), and sing "lalala, it's a choice, lalala" all day long but it won't change the fact that a) it most definitely isn't a conscience choice for most people, b) it is most likely, from the evidence that is available, a mix of nature and nurture and c) it doesn't matter anyway, because they are people and homosexuality isn't harmful in and of itself.
    No thre isn't. There is not a single study that says there is more evidence in any direction. What the studies say, in a nutshell, is that they are inconclusive. Not one study has ever emliminated or proven any cause other than dropping the general assumption that it is a disorder.
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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    No thre isn't. There is not a single study that says there is more evidence in any direction. What the studies say, in a nutshell, is that they are inconclusive. Not one study has ever emliminated or proven any cause other than dropping the general assumption that it is a disorder.
    Do heterosexuals choose to be attracted to people who are least beneficial to humanity?

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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    Do heterosexuals choose to be attracted to people who are least beneficial to humanity?
    Considering that you have left my question unanswered twice, mac, I'll assume that you have amended your original argument and have to come to accept that, in your words, having "benefits to our species" is not sign of unchosen sexuality.

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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    Considering that you have left my question unanswered twice, mac, I'll assume that you have amended your original argument and have to come to accept that, in your words, having "benefits to our species" is not sign of unchosen sexuality.
    They certainly choose to mate with those not entirely beneficial to society. Attraction is unprovable anyways, and is possibly nothing more than a sub-conscious response to learned information.

    Stop quoting yourself, I'll get to you in time. Kids are so impatient.
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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    They certainly choose to mate with those not entirely beneficial to society. Attraction is unprovable anyways, and is possibly nothing more than a sub-conscious response to learned information.

    Stop quoting yourself, I'll get to you in time. Kids are so impatient.
    LOL, you prove once again that it's all about you. It would be easier for everybody if you would just accept that your beliefs about choice are illogical.

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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    Do heterosexuals choose to be attracted to people who are least beneficial to humanity?
    This has nothing to do with the fact that there is NO CONCLUSIVE study on the origins of homosexuality.
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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    This has nothing to do with the fact that there is NO CONCLUSIVE study on the origins of homosexuality.
    Right, but that's not what we're talking about right now. You base your assumption that heterosexuality is not a choice partially on that fact that it has benefits for humanity. Unfortunately, heterosexuals choose partners who do not have apparent benefits for humanity.

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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    They certainly choose to mate with those not entirely beneficial to society. Attraction is unprovable anyways, and is possibly nothing more than a sub-conscious response to learned information. Stop quoting yourself, I'll get to you in time. Kids are so impatient.
    I like big butts and I cannot lie.

    The women of my family tend toward that characterstic. Pretty much all I saw growing up with 6 older sisters. Maybe I associate posterior voluptitude with acceptance and affection. You may be onto something.
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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyDan View Post
    I like big butts and I cannot lie.

    The women of my family tend toward that characterstic. Pretty much all I saw growing up with 6 older sisters. Maybe I associate posterior voluptitude with acceptance and affection. You may be onto something.
    I read a study once that said men are attracted to women that smell like their mother...seems to work on rats, too.
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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    Right, but that's not what we're talking about right now. You base your assumption that heterosexuality is not a choice partially on that fact that it has benefits for humanity. Unfortunately, heterosexuals choose partners who do not have apparent benefits for humanity.
    No, that's not what we were talking about. That's what you began talking about.
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