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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    actually I once read an interesting study many years ago

    sexually immature men and those with lower IQ's tend to go for women with big racks. more sophisticated and intellectual men prefer lithe figures. big boobed women tend to get strong but dumb men.

    women built like ballerinas tend to get smart clever mates
    It would follow that a maturitaly (new word) stunted man would be more fixated on his infantile instinct to seek the breast, whereas a normal healthy adult of full maturation would look for a mate who could best bear children.

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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    It would follow that a maturitaly (new word) stunted man would be more fixated on his infantile instinct to seek the breast, whereas a normal healthy adult of full maturation would look for a mate who could best bear children.

    that was one of the theories of the study. also another study noted that people judged most "attractive" in terms of facial features were people who were "average" in terms of things like facial proportion, eye spacing nose size. one of the theories was that "average people" tend to be genetically the least likely to have issues.

    all fascinating stuff.

    when I was in HS charlie's angels was big. one survey had pictures of the three angels-one was their faces in what would be called photo shoot shots (ie if you were their agents and trying to get them work) and the other had each woman in a one piece tank suit (sort of like the famous red job FF was in)

    they asked hundreds of men which girl they thought was most attractive

    it was amazing, younger men, often without sexual experience and those with low rates of education invariably chose FF who had the biggest rack (both the head shot and the body shot). artsy guys often chose JS. the smartest guys tended to choose KJ when the pictures were shown

    when they were shown in the tanksuits, JS was the biggest winner among the brightest guys



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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    yet many heterosexuals choose not to breed-often the most prosperous and intelligent people which is bad for the species while those who breed the most are often people who spawn uncared for children with multiple partners leading to crime and poverty
    Mainly because we have so impaired survival of the fittest.
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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    So do you think heterosexuals who are attracted to non-evolutionarily fit people choose their attraction?
    what are "non-evolutionarily fit" people in your eyes?
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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that was one of the theories of the study. also another study noted that people judged most "attractive" in terms of facial features were people who were "average" in terms of things like facial proportion, eye spacing nose size. one of the theories was that "average people" tend to be genetically the least likely to have issues.

    all fascinating stuff.

    when I was in HS charlie's angels was big. one survey had pictures of the three angels-one was their faces in what would be called photo shoot shots (ie if you were their agents and trying to get them work) and the other had each woman in a one piece tank suit (sort of like the famous red job FF was in)

    they asked hundreds of men which girl they thought was most attractive

    it was amazing, younger men, often without sexual experience and those with low rates of education invariably chose FF who had the biggest rack (both the head shot and the body shot). artsy guys often chose JS. the smartest guys tended to choose KJ when the pictures were shown

    when they were shown in the tanksuits, JS was the biggest winner among the brightest guys
    Interesting. I was always more of a JS guy.

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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyDan View Post
    Interesting. I was always more of a JS guy.
    well when showed the faces I (17 at the time) chose KJ, when I saw the bodysuit pictures it was JS. she had a body to die for.



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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Mainly because we have so impaired survival of the fittest.
    How do you "impair" survival of the fittest? Humans may or may not be evolving, but not sure what you are trying to say, and the change to not evolving would be very recent(< 10k years ago).
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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    How do you "impair" survival of the fittest? Humans may or may not be evolving, but not sure what you are trying to say, and the change to not evolving would be very recent(< 10k years ago).
    Modern society has negated survival of the fittest by artificially supporting the unfit in so many ways......welfare for example. There are a lot more examples that I know you understand and will pop into your head if you just roll your eyes back for a few seconds and think about it.
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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Modern society has negated survival of the fittest by artificially supporting the unfit in so many ways......welfare for example. There are a lot more examples that I know you understand and will pop into your head if you just roll your eyes back for a few seconds and think about it.
    OK, you clearly do not understand evolution. Let's take this point by point:

    1) survival of the fittest is something of a misnomer. What it actually refers to is passing on genes. A person who lives 20 years but has 5 kids was better "fit" from an evolutionary standpoint than some one who lived 50 years and had 1. Some one who lived 100 years and had no children would be a complete failure evolutionarily. This is an oversimplification that does not take into account outcomes for the children, nor "passing on" genes by supporting relatives, and many other factors, but is basically true.

    2) Your example would only work if those currently on welfare would pass on genes at a lower rate if welfare did not exist.

    3) Welfare and such are such recent additions to the world that they have not had time to have an evolutionary impact.
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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    OK, you clearly do not understand evolution. Let's take this point by point:

    1) survival of the fittest is something of a misnomer. What it actually refers to is passing on genes. A person who lives 20 years but has 5 kids was better "fit" from an evolutionary standpoint than some one who lived 50 years and had 1. Some one who lived 100 years and had no children would be a complete failure evolutionarily. This is an oversimplification that does not take into account outcomes for the children, nor "passing on" genes by supporting relatives, and many other factors, but is basically true.

    2) Your example would only work if those currently on welfare would pass on genes at a lower rate if welfare did not exist.

    3) Welfare and such are such recent additions to the world that they have not had time to have an evolutionary impact.
    Oh no, no. Economic viability in modern society has taken on a major "fit" role. By artificially supporting those that can not provide for themselves, we've made them marginally acceptable for mating. These policies allow those that are incapable of self support and success to live far beyond what their own abilities would allow, therefore not only allowing the passing of "unfit" genes, but allowing it for a far greater length of time.
    ”People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both.” --- Ben Franklin

    Quote Originally Posted by The German View Post
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