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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

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    I don't know any details about the tattoo. What was it?
    It was the typical lesbian tatoo so my wife tells me

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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    It was the typical lesbian tatoo so my wife tells me
    My wife just told me she got two..on is a purple star and one is a phoenix or something...Ihavent seen either yet

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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Interesting. So you really do not know whether or not people can choose who they find sexually attractive or arousing?
    But you do?


    Why do you choose to define homosexuals by their behavior instead of by how they feel?
    I don't, but one must be taken at their word in regards to feelings. Action's are provable.

    Do you believe that the factors of sexual attraction and arousal are irrelevant to a person's sexual identity?
    In fact, I do. There are many things that are learned and cause arousal. In some cases, things that are not even sexual in nature. Perfume, for example.
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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    But you do?
    I've tried to be heterosexual. It didn't work.

    In fact, I do. There are many things that are learned and cause arousal. In some cases, things that are not even sexual in nature. Perfume, for example.
    Wouldn't that be a paraphilia?

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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    I've tried to be heterosexual. It didn't work.
    That's not what I meant.

    Wouldn't that be a paraphilia?
    Only if the thing became the object of your desire.
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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I notice because I am, and I further note what kind of pen they're using. Being close to the problems lefties deal with every day makes me sensitive to it. I imagine that if I were right handed, that writing in general would be a non-issue, and I probably might not notice left handers.
    Just found out on the FBI's 10 Most Wanted List: Osama bin Laden was a lefty.

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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    I beleive I allready did. The manner in which someone writes is indicitive of how they think. If they are "putting on airs" I choose to not read them. It's not that I can't read them, its not that I can't get something from the writing...I choose not to read them because I've learned that the way they write is reflective of attitudes I dislike. Attitudes, by the way, that have no direct impact on my life. It's a choice because I could live with, or without it.
    Why do you dislike those attitudes? Please describe in detail how this dislike was/is formed.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    I think pedophilia is still considered a disorder (at least I hope it is). I don't know that the failure of treatment makes it any less a choice though, exfept perhaps if you consider addiction beyond choice. In my view, addiction is a result of choices made....and so is still a choice for this purpose.
    You're doing it again. Confusing a state/preference with a behavior. One can be an addict, but not act or CHOOSE to act on that state.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Yes.

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    That's absurd, mac. You're doing what you did a month ago when you were asked to define "natural". You are not being honest in your debating. We are talking about feelings and desires, things that are inherant or unconscious, things that one cannot control. You are not stupid... you know this. What you are REALLY talking about are behavioral responses to these feelings and/or desires. You are doing this, similar to that past debate, because admitting that one has no choice over their feelings would sink your argument.

    Here is the argument in brief:

    1) A person has no choice over what they feel. These are unconscious and inherant emotional reactions, and include enjoyment/disgust of certain flavors, smells, sounds, etc...
    2) A person has a choice over how they respond to these emotions... or whether they respond at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    No, I'm not. Not really.
    Yeah, you are, really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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