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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    Where does it say that homosexuality is a sin? (Also, straight people commit homosexual acts as well).
    There are multiple scriptures on this, playdrive. I do not care to look them up because I have done this literally over 20 times and the repetition sickens my stomach. If a "straight" man voluntarily does a homsexual act, well then he's not straight now isn't he?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    When did God designate you as his official spokesperson? Do you mean to say that the omnipotent master of the entire world reqiures you to speak for him on this subject?
    Can the hyperbole. I read His scriptures and anyone who understands Christianity can either read andunderstand them or ignore them. It is that simple.

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I don't believe that homosexual orientation is a choice. But acting upon homosexual urges is definitely a choice. The sin is homosexual sex, not homosexual orientation.
    So you believe homosexual sex is a sin, yet being homosexual isn't. Are you stating a homosexual person wouldn't engage in homosexual sex? If one thinks he's homosexual, he's going to engage in homosexual sex. God stated homosexuality is a sin---both acts and lifestyle choice because it is a perversion.

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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    So you believe homosexual sex is a sin, yet being homosexual isn't. Are you stating a homosexual person wouldn't engage in homosexual sex? If one thinks he's homosexual, he's going to engage in homosexual sex. God stated homosexuality is a sin---both acts and lifestyle choice because it is a perversion.
    I don't believe homosexual temptations and desires is a sin just as much as it isn't a sin for you to be attracted to women. It's acting upon temptation that is wrong. Homosexual sex is a sin just as extra or premarital straight sex is a sin. However, being tempted is not a sin. I'm not saying that homosexual behavior is acceptable Biblically, what I am saying is those who struggle with homosexual temptations are not in sin.
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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Can the hyperbole. I read His scriptures and anyone who understands Christianity can either read andunderstand them or ignore them. It is that simple.
    There is no hyperbole in pointing out the fact that you have not been designated as any sort of arbiter or spokesperson on any of this, and that the scriptures themselves reflect a worldview that is distinctly non-scientific and inhumane.

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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I don't believe homosexual temptations and desires is a sin just as much as it isn't a sin for you to be attracted to women. It's acting upon temptation that is wrong. Homosexual sex is a sin just as extra or premarital straight sex is a sin. However, being tempted is not a sin. I'm not saying that homosexual behavior is acceptable Biblically, what I am saying is those who struggle with homosexual temptations are not in sin.
    So, in your opinion, should homosexuals be allowed to marry so that they can be in an exclusive, committed relationship, and can express themselves sexually without sin, as heterosexuals do?

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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I don't believe homosexual temptations and desires is a sin just as much as it isn't a sin for you to be attracted to women. It's acting upon temptation that is wrong. Homosexual sex is a sin just as extra or premarital straight sex is a sin. However, being tempted is not a sin. I'm not saying that homosexual behavior is acceptable Biblically, what I am saying is those who struggle with homosexual temptations are not in sin.
    So you do believe homosexual sex is a sin, and you state that a straight man can struggle with homosexual temptations? That makes more sense.

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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    There is no hyperbole in pointing out the fact that you have not been designated as any sort of arbiter or spokesperson on any of this, and that the scriptures themselves reflect a worldview that is distinctly non-scientific and inhumane.
    You have erred by stating that I'm a "spokesperson" for God. I merely state what is stated in the Word of God. Furthermore, you have absolutely no understanding of Christianity because you never believe it to begin with AEB your last statement.

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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    There are multiple scriptures on this, playdrive. I do not care to look them up because I have done this literally over 20 times and the repetition sickens my stomach. If a "straight" man voluntarily does a homsexual act, well then he's not straight now isn't he?
    No there aren't which is why I'm asking you. I know the Bible very well and there are passages that say homosexual sex is a sin. I am asking you to tell me where the Bible says that homosexuality is a sin. Hint: there are none.

    As far as the straight man. Yes, he is straight because he performs an act against his sexuality.

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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    So, in your opinion, should homosexuals be allowed to marry so that they can be in an exclusive, committed relationship, and can express themselves sexually without sin, as heterosexuals do?
    I believe that their union is still a sin. However, I respect their personal autonomy and their right to believe that homosexuality is not a sin. I respect their beliefs and I support their right to marry each other even though I believe it's wrong. I don't believe in forcing my faith or my interpretation of the Bible upon everyone. I respect the autonomy of others and their right to live their own life regardless of if I think their actions and choices are right or wrong. It's their life, not mine.
    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    So you do believe homosexual sex is a sin, and you state that a straight man can struggle with homosexual temptations? That makes more sense.
    No. I am saying that homosexual temptation is not a sin. I believe that sexual orientation and sexual acts are two different things. One can be oriented to be attracted to the same sex, but that attraction is not a sin. It's what you do with that attraction/temptation that makes it a sin. Someone can be homosexual and not sin by not acting upon their temptations. I know someone that used to be openly gay. He was once married to a man and was a homosexual prostitute prior to his marriage. He came to Christ and repented of his sin. He openly admits that he still struggles with homosexual temptation, but he does not act upon it though and is thus not sinning. He repented of his sins and choses to live for Christ.
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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    If it is a choice, why did they happen to be gay in the first place? Why not just choose to be not gay to begin with?
    gender non-conforming, rebellion.....taboo excitation.....there are lots of reasons.
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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    gender non-conforming, rebellion.....taboo excitation.....there are lots of reasons.
    So all the people in "pray the gay away" camps chose to be gay?

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