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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Of course, I have yet to actually meet anyone who truly adheres to traditional morality. The whole stoning people to death for adultery and subjugating women thing tends not to go over so well in modern society. People like yourself tend to practice a bastardized form of traditional morality.
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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    To put it blatantly, embracing traditional morality means you have embraced the moral code of a militant, desert people that existed about 2,000 years ago. Illogical, no? You were likely indoctrinated into it at a young age and have chosen to ignore the epistemological question of "why do I believe what I believe?" for fear of losing your place in the group that you have come to identify yourself with and rely upon. Without said group you would struggle to make sense of the cold world in which you live. If you need proof of this, simply ask yourself if you can envision morals in a world without God.

    Your votes simply aim to reduce society to a dichotomous, teleological philosophy of virtue and vice rather than embracing an ethical system based upon simple reasoning and the natural human capacities to empathize.
    Your first sentence is merely your own interpretation. 2nd sentence---you think religion is illogical. 3rd---wrong. I question and wonder about everything. Stating that I'm ignoring said question is a very incorrect belief. 4th statement is assumptuous, so I dismiss it. 5th---that idea is still up for debate; I've only discussed it over 20 times. 6th statement is insulting and biased, of course.

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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    It saddens me how many people voted "yes"

    What are you all, 12 years old? I don't think anyone who is an adult or a teenager would harbor an anti-gay sentiment.

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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrannosaur View Post
    It saddens me how many people voted "yes"

    What are you all, 12 years old? I don't think anyone who is an adult or a teenager would harbor an anti-gay sentiment.
    I voted No. But to be fair, "abnormal" does not equal "wrong" or "bad."
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrannosaur View Post
    It saddens me how many people voted "yes"

    What are you all, 12 years old? I don't think anyone who is an adult or a teenager would harbor an anti-gay sentiment.
    Technically it's abnormal because there are many more "normal" people who don't live that lifestyle. Abnormal does not equal wrong. However, It is abnormal, and I believe it wrong based on my religious beliefs.

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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Technically it's abnormal because there are many more "normal" people who don't live that lifestyle. Abnormal does not equal wrong. However, It is abnormal, and I believe it wrong based on my religious beliefs.
    Homosexuality is abnormal. Gay people as individuals are only as abnormal as everyone else, which makes them normal, since their sexuality is only one of their traits.

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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    Homosexuality is abnormal. Gay people as individuals are only as abnormal as everyone else, which makes them normal, since their sexuality is only one of their traits.
    And I can understand your belief, yet respectfully disagree with it.

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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    And I can understand your belief, yet respectfully disagree with it.
    I think TPD's point is that the poll question is "Are gay people abnormal," not "is homosexuality abnormal." If we all use the statistical definition of abnormal, then every individual is abnormal to some degree. For many people homosexuality is only one of their traits and only a part of their identity.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    I think TPD's point is that the poll question is "Are gay people abnormal," not "is homosexuality abnormal." If we all use the statistical definition of abnormal, then every individual is abnormal to some degree. For many people homosexuality is only one of their traits and only a part of their identity.
    This is true. Everyone is abnormal to some extent. We individuals aren't made of one select element, but many. Doesn't change my stance that I believe homosexualty is a sin. Then again, I think there are many sins out there from those on the left to greed and selfishness on the right... I digress.

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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    And I can understand your belief, yet respectfully disagree with it.
    SB clarified it well. My point is not really a "belief". It's a fact that every human being has one or more traits that would be considered "abnormal". For gay people, homosexuality is their abnormal trait.

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