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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

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    I would deem it perverse, as well. In general sex for money is against my morals. If both partners are of the same sex, then it's a perversion in my eys. If partners of the opposite sex do it, it's a perversion in my eyes.

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    OK... that's fine. But your morality is irrelevant to the logic behind this discussion. Sexual behavior does not equate to sexual orientation.
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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    You are incorrect. Folks who engage in sex with members of the same sex in prison are not homosexual. They are engaging in a behavior for two purposes: control/domination and sexual pleasure. There are plenty of studies on this. 90% of all men who engage in sexual behavior with other men in prison are heterosexual.
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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    OK... that's fine. But your morality is irrelevant to the logic behind this discussion. Sexual behavior does not equate to sexual orientation.
    It is faulty to use naught but logic. Emotion, morality, logic, wisdom, experience, character... they all play vital roles in discussion. My morality is relevant to me, and until I'm barred from speaking, I will discuss this issue as I please. Would you elaborate on your last sentence? You seem sure, but can you concretely prove that?

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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    In what way?
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...-abnormal.html

    Similar thread only asking a different question. It would be interesting to see how individuals reason and define abnormality in the thread I created (assuming people take it seriously )
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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    You are incorrect. Folks who engage in sex with members of the same sex in prison are not homosexual. They are engaging in a behavior for two purposes: control/domination and sexual pleasure. There are plenty of studies on this. 90% of all men who engage in sexual behavior with other men in prison are heterosexual.
    Unwilling or no, that is still gay in my eyes. I do not understand how control/dominance plays a role in that. I would say the unwilling man is straight, but the man who forces himself on others is indeed so.

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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Unwilling or no, that is still gay in my eyes. I do not understand how control/dominance plays a role in that. I would say the unwilling man is straight, but the man who forces himself on others is indeed so.
    That is a gay act, but that has no bearing one who the person is attracted to.
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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Unwilling or no, that is still gay in my eyes. I do not understand how control/dominance plays a role in that. I would say the unwilling man is straight, but the man who forces himself on others is indeed so.
    I think reluctant has a side in this too... most notably in the jail setting. There may be other factors aside from reluctant.

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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Unwilling or no, that is still gay in my eyes. I do not understand how control/dominance plays a role in that. I would say the unwilling man is straight, but the man who forces himself on others is indeed so.
    "In your eyes" is just your opinion and holds no bearing on the facts of this issue. 90% of all men who engage in homsexual behaviors in prison are straight. These are the facts.

    Prison sexuality is situational and behavioral, and is not related to one's sexual orientation. Prison life has hierachies of power, with individuals using sex, violence, and threats of both to hold power and dominance over others. At times, the submissive partner, may agree to this situation in exchange for protiection. Regardless, this is about control and dominance and having power over others, not about sexual orientation.
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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Unwilling or no, that is still gay in my eyes. I do not understand how control/dominance plays a role in that. I would say the unwilling man is straight, but the man who forces himself on others is indeed so.
    When speaking of "gay" as referring to orientation, you are incorrect.
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