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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Temporal View Post
    I checked no, but it's a bit strange to isolate one aspect of a person in order to describe their normality as a whole.

    In other words, which gay people are you talking about?
    Everyone has varied aspects to them. Some do not display all of them.

    If you see a dr pilot or leader of a country you do not know, you would not attribute that aspect, which is a major factor of who they are, to them. Along with any persons placed in their charge, or most notably in the case of a leader, decisions they make which will impact all subject to them.

    Some gays care less about what ppl think and go about thier lives unoticed in general.

    Others have to let everyone know they are gay.

    Some have decided to insist what they desire onto everyone.

    Gay is an abberation, relating gay sexual activities to rare events of animals to justify a sexual act that is repeatedly practiced is an excuse used to justify thier actions.

    It may well be justifiable to relate cannabalism in a defense against thier relativity stance.

    Shall we legalize cannabalism? I believe it is still practiced in parts of the world.

    It is a battle between one side trying to preserve thier way of life, and another side with an abberation in sexual desire trying to deminish (though they do not see or will not accept that) values of the other's side. Values held as thier's for eons. It attempts to detract from one side and the other does not understand that. The crux of the question is where does it end? How much is one side willing to surrender to the other? Why does one side have to surrender anything?
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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    it seemed to me the question was specifically aimed at their identity as gay people.
    The question didn't say anything about identity. It said, "are gay people abnormal?" Nonetheless, how does this change the question? We're still talking about one characteristic, identity.

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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by as if View Post
    Exactly, if not it could be worded are happy/jovial people abnormal?
    Still, we're talking about people, not homosexuality. Homosexuality is abnormal because it is an abnormal sexuality. Are gay people abnormal because everything about them as people is abnormal relative to all other whole individuals? How does one trait make them completely abnormal?

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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    The question didn't say anything about identity. It said, "are gay people abnormal?" Nonetheless, how does this change the question? We're still talking about one characteristic, identity.
    I think we are beating a dead horse with a symantics stick.

    Then again the original poster seemed to agree somewhere back in the thread that symantics were used to pose the question.
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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    Still, we're talking about people, not homosexuality. Homosexuality is abnormal because it is an abnormal sexuality. Are gay people abnormal because everything about them as people is abnormal relative to all other whole individuals? How does one trait make them completely abnormal?
    That's a very good point. Personally I don't feel they are abnormal as individual persons, I feel that their sexuality is abnormal. I think I would have to answer no to the poll question. Thank you for making that distinction.
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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    Still, we're talking about people, not homosexuality. Homosexuality is abnormal because it is an abnormal sexuality. Are gay people abnormal because everything about them as people is abnormal relative to all other whole individuals? How does one trait make them completely abnormal?
    You cannot seperate the two. Gays use the word as thier identity due to thier sexual identity/preferences.

    Unless now it means something else.

    This is one of the problems that occur when the meaning of words are changed.
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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    That's a very good point. Personally I don't feel they are abnormal as individual persons, I feel that their sexuality is abnormal. I think I would have to answer no to the poll question. Thank you for making that distinction.
    I feel the same way.

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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by as if View Post
    You cannot seperate the two. Gays use the word as thier identity due to thier sexual identity/preferences.

    Unless now it means something else.
    Technically, it depends on the gay person you're talking to. I know some gay/bisexual people who don't consider their sexuality as part of their identity anymore than they consider their left arm a part of their identity.

    Nonetheless, I think you can separate the two. Let's say you have an Native American (they make up 1% of the population). Is he, as a whole person, abnormal because of his race and identity?

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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by as if View Post
    You cannot seperate the two. Gays use the word as thier identity due to thier sexual identity/preferences.

    Unless now it means something else.

    This is one of the problems that occur when the meaning of words are changed.
    That's only because it is their homosexuality that makes them abnormal, so it stands out. Are they homosexual and nothing else?

    If you asked a homosexual firefighter what he does, do you think his answer would be "I s**k c**k" or would it be "I'm a firefighter"?
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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    Technically, it depends on the gay person you're talking to. I know some gay/bisexual people who don't consider their sexuality as part of their identity anymore than they consider their left arm a part of their identity.
    I cannot agree. We know the word means happy. It was taken by the gay movement to refer to themselves at some time in the 70's. There is anohter word used with has been argued to not mean or refer to or even have a definition, homosexual.

    This is what happens when not all in a group behave in the same manner.

    The vocal ones attribute mannerisms to the rest.

    The mere fact that there has been no defined word/s in any language (I know of... *I know english bad english and really bad english*) is a significant factor when considering gays and history. Even though many argue against the case of no society that practiced homosexual acts and supported or ignored (whatever) it lasted throughout history.

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    Nonetheless, I think you can separate the two. Let's say you have an Native American (they make up 1% of the population). Is he, as a whole person, abnormal because of his race and identity?
    This makes me think of another word used in the past for gays, different. Definately different in both cases. Most notably is an native american lives most or all of his or her life on a reservation. There is also the skin tone and facial bone structure.

    All that aside. who ppl are is a sum of all of thier attributes whether positive or negative.

    Gay denotes a sexual preference, it has since the seveties. I know, I was there, and perhaps earlier. Back then ppl didnt talk about it much. It is an definite identifer.

    Unless they or someone notes another word existing or not, to identify them, gay has, and now denotes thier sexuality. They chose the word from all that I know and it was and is widely accepted as it is. I find myself wondering what the lastest hard print dictionaries define gay as now, and how long if it notes homosexuality.

    In short it is thier sexuality that caused them to chose the word gay.
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