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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by celticwar17 View Post
    That doesn't make sense at all...
    Homosexuality would never come out of evolution, because homosexuals would not likely reproduce. It is an advantage however to have a hyper sex drive= more baby making. I think a side affect of the evolved developing human sex drive has a slight chance of messing up in early development in the womb or early childhood. It shows that women who have a stressful pregnancy have a higher chance of having a gay child.
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    I do not believe this to be the case and I am hard-pressed to think of any evolutionary benefit that homosexuality would provide.
    There are actually a couple different theories of evolution accounting for homosexuality. The best(to my mind) assumes that evolution selects genes, not individuals(this assumption is I believe the favored theory at the current time). It is important to remember that you are not the only one with a particular gene. Your sister for example contains 1/4 of the exact same genes you do. Therefore if homosexuality increased the odds of survival for relatives of the homosexuality enough, it could in fact be a survival trait for the gene. There is a whole math built on this concept, and I forget the name of it off the top of my head, and since it is between periods of the hockey game, not going to search for it.
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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    For how you define the word "abnormal", do you consider gays to be "abnormal"?
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    Abnormal | Define Abnormal at Dictionary.com
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    not normal, average, typical, or usual; deviating from a standard: abnormal powers of concentration; an abnormal amount of snow; abnormal behavior.
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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by celticwar17 View Post
    No not necessarily, Thinks happen that nature does intend... but they usually die out. But i think there is a connection between a development of a human and some other animals sexual drive where a mess up can occur. The sex drive aspect would pass, but when the defect happens it wouldn't.
    Interesting this is as well, but what proves/validates your belief?

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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    "Purpose" and "intend" require a conscious intent. Evolution is simply nature acting on billions and billions of combination randomly, and the random forces of nature selecting from those combination. Evolution is random. If you ask what the purpose of an opposable thumb is, the question is nonsense. If however you ask why we have opposable thumbs, that question does have meaning. We have opposable thumbs because it was a trait that arose from random mutations that gave those with the mutation a survival advantage. It's purpose is not to use tools, nor to grasp with, nor to suck, and yet those are all uses and advantages to thumbs.
    "purpose" / "intend" are just words to explain why things are the way they are, like why do we have a big butt compared to other primate? There is all an evolutionary reasoning/ "purpose"... homosexuality has no purpose, it is simply a side effect of some that has a purpose; much like any defect any human can have.

    Our genetic make-up is very specific... but it often messes up on the way of developing from the blueprint. There are common "mess-ups" /errors that happen and some uncommon ones... homosexuality i think is just one of the common "mess-ups" from development.
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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    If we are going to say that gay people are "abnormal" because homosexuality is abnormal, then technically we are all abnormal because there is something about us as individuals that is not the norm.
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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    I thought Darwin professed that the point of evolution was survival of the fittest. I would think that all members of said genus were meant to produce, not just a few. But then again if the point of evolution is to survive and multiply, how does this explain the homosexual or the man/woman who prefers to never have children? Odd..
    No. "Survival of the fittest" is simply an aspect of how evolution works.
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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Yes
    Abnormal | Define Abnormal at Dictionary.com
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    not normal, average, typical, or usual; deviating from a standard: abnormal powers of concentration; an abnormal amount of snow; abnormal behavior.
    Can it be quantified? Concretely proven what "normal" is? "Normal" changes from time and place.. There can be a plethore of "normals" with even more "abnormals".

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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by celticwar17 View Post
    Evolution has a method to it's madness... this is what you would call "purpose".

    Homosexually clearly does not make you fit for evolution; therefore it is not "natural". It's a side effect of a developing sex drive that can happen. Your disregarding is that homosexuality COMPLETELY laughs at evolution in the face, it literally makes the ONLY way for any life to survive... unlikely, no species could survive with a entire gay population... sure some would get curious, but the population would eventually go down to zero.
    Evolution is a term to describe the cumulative effects of random forces. There is no "method".
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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by as if View Post
    That is totally illogical. If nature did not intend, flowers would not have a stamen and pistal. Hence they would not exist, no more than gay would exist aside from the fact it happens regardless of what the cause/s is/are.

    I am appauled at the fact the gay agenda now touts that nature is irrelevant, doesnt exist. But it is yet another self serving attitude that is required to justify the percieved need that being gay is not only ok, it should be able to do what Nature never intended, reproduce. It is not possible. Adam and Steve could try till they die, they cannot reproduce ---> naturally.

    Sorry, that's the way it is. We dont dictate nature, we can only muck it up or preserve it.
    Nature is not conscious, it does not "intend" anything.
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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    If we are going to say that gay people are "abnormal" because homosexuality is abnormal, then technically we are all abnormal because there is something about us as individuals that is not the norm.
    I agree and I would add that we all "have our demons", and flaws.

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