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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    And the purpose of a public poll is? I think we know.
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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    And the purpose of a public poll is? I think we know.
    So when someone eventually games the poll we can check and see the real results.
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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by celticwar17 View Post
    I agree, i don't thinks it's really genetic, but something that happens developmentally either in the womb or early childhood... like the stressful pregnancy statistic i said earlier. But i also i agree that some genetic histories may make one more prone to the occurring if it does happen... which would explain the twin gay studies and any other genetic theories.
    There is more to it than that, there is influence. Something that cannot be denied.

    We have alcohol, candies, and a host of other things. We dont need them, but decide if we want them. Alcohol and whether or not one uses it is often decided by peer pressure, or influence. When we need something there is an undenyable fact that you will die, or languish in ill health without it. Even the simple things like minerals are something we need or at least benifit from.

    It seems most just dont get or consider influence. If influence has not played a factor in your life, you have a rock hard constitution. And, I have to wonder, did you drink at the HS prom, and if so, why?

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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Personally I don't think homosexuality is purely genetic, I think we are born this way, but I think it is a variation of sexual development(which we know very little about in general), that some people may be genetically predisposition too. And it is very possible enough people with this genetic predisposition passed this along to future generations so that we have a fair amount of people who are homosexual today. You must note that possibly one doesn't have to be homosexual to carry this predisposition, I would wager that is very likely the case, on how this has been passed down through the generations.
    I think it is the influences around us that make people decide that lifestyle. From an evolutional standpoint which demands survival and productivity, I do not believe we are "born" gay. If we were then the species is being culled off. We're meant to multiply, in regards to evolution. *Has read a few part of Darwin's book. In terms of Christianity, I don't believe people are born that way, either, because scriptures in both new and old state it is a "perversion." There may be fat genes, but I don't believe there are homosexual genes. If genes could count for our every notion, then am I to then assume that there's a Goth gene, or an Emo one, or a jock one (not sure on this one), a vore gene, a polygamy gene, etc?

    Do I hate homosexuals? No. I hate the sin, not the sinner. I don't view them with contempt because we all sin, constantly, from pride, to vanity, to lust, to vengeance, to greed, etc. My dislike of sin spreads to everyone equally, myself included. That's pretty much why I now view both political parties with contempt. *I don't mean to seem off-topic.

    Also, I know people who believed they were born gay, but then greatly changed their minds. How is that explained?
    Last edited by Wake; 04-29-11 at 09:03 PM.

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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by as if View Post
    That is totally illogical. If nature did not intend, flowers would not have a stamen and pistal. Hence they would not exist, no more than gay would exist aside from the fact it happens regardless of what the cause/s is/are.

    I am appauled at the fact the gay agenda now touts that nature is irrelevant, doesnt exist. But it is yet another self serving attitude that is required to justify the percieved need that being gay is not only ok, it should be able to do what Nature never intended, reproduce. It is not possible. Adam and Steve could try till they die, they cannot reproduce ---> naturally.

    Sorry, that's the way it is. We dont dictate nature, we can only muck it up or preserve it.
    And if nature did not intend, homosexuality wouldn't exist in the animal kingdom. As it turns out, it did.
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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    How so? Could you elaborate?
    "Purpose" and "intend" require a conscious intent. Evolution is simply nature acting on billions and billions of combination randomly, and the random forces of nature selecting from those combination. Evolution is random. If you ask what the purpose of an opposable thumb is, the question is nonsense. If however you ask why we have opposable thumbs, that question does have meaning. We have opposable thumbs because it was a trait that arose from random mutations that gave those with the mutation a survival advantage. It's purpose is not to use tools, nor to grasp with, nor to suck, and yet those are all uses and advantages to thumbs.
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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    I do not know that it is a good idea to "cure" people who have been alive for many years and already have developed a personality and a sense of who they are. Are you sure people would be as outraged at the idea of targeting homosexual genes in children?
    If they are psychologically healthy and well-adjusted, I agree. For people who struggle with their sexual desires and identity, and for whom it is a source of profound torment, then I think that treatments that aligned their sexual desires in more comfortable directions would be a very positive thing, if it were possible. Much of the outrage at so-called "reparative therapy" is that it's ineffective and harmful and the methods employed are abhorrent-- all wholly valid and compelling arguments-- but there is also a very large degree of outrage over the concept itself. People get very upset when you threaten their identity, even if your motives and methods are wholly beneficial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    When humans evolved from apes, the sexual cues that males got from females had to evolve, and it is strongly suspected this is why women have enlarged breasts. The enlarged breasts are shaped(vaguely) like buttocks. This all happened fairly recently in evolutionary terms. Changes in sex drives and what people find attractive do change evolutionarily, and evolution can account for homosexuality.
    I do not believe this to be the case and I am hard-pressed to think of any evolutionary benefit that homosexuality would provide.

    Quote Originally Posted by celticwar17 View Post
    I think a side affect of the evolved developing human sex drive has a slight chance of messing up in early development in the womb or early childhood. It shows that women who have a stressful pregnancy have a higher chance of having a gay child.
    Homosexuality occurs in non-primates as well.

    There's nothing conclusive that I am aware of yet, but there is a theory that sexual identity and sexual orientation are linked to sex hormone levels during two separate phases of fetal brain development. This would, of course, further reinforce the general psychiatric consensus that attempting to "treat" homosexuality through behaviorist methods is misguided and indicate that we are decades away from any medical technology that could conceivably offer a solution.
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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    But what does that serve when in one thread we get a gaggle of contentious users?

    Since we can't pin down the definition, and we know such argumentation would ensue, why even offer up the question?*
    The question and how I worded it has multiple purposes. Note the interesting discussions ongoing here. It is further meant to, in a way, highlight a couple points, at least one of which has nothing to do with the actual question(in fact, to highlight the importance of defining terms, though that is the least of the reasons for my wording).
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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    "Purpose" and "intend" require a conscious intent. Evolution is simply nature acting on billions and billions of combination randomly, and the random forces of nature selecting from those combination. Evolution is random. If you ask what the purpose of an opposable thumb is, the question is nonsense. If however you ask why we have opposable thumbs, that question does have meaning. We have opposable thumbs because it was a trait that arose from random mutations that gave those with the mutation a survival advantage. It's purpose is not to use tools, nor to grasp with, nor to suck, and yet those are all uses and advantages to thumbs.
    Interesting, it is.

    What proves/validates your belief?

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    Re: Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    And if nature did not intend, homosexuality wouldn't exist in the animal kingdom. As it turns out, it did.
    No not necessarily, Thinks happen that nature does intend... but they usually die out. But i think there is a connection between a development of a human and some other animals sexual drive where a mess up can occur. The sex drive aspect would pass, but when the defect happens it wouldn't.

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