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    Re: Aclu

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    What would satisfy you? "We want the thieves head on pike and his family sent to the salt mines"? The ACLU clearly stated the cross shouldn't have been stolen. That is as clearcut a statement you are ever going to get from a group of lawyers.
    See my post #84.

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Well hell's bells, lets go back even further and suggest that if the cross hadn't been erected in public land in the first place, theft would never have occurred. This is basically the reverse of the Pastor Jones argument all over again.
    Really? Seems like it lasted for 70 years in that exact same spot.
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    Re: Aclu

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    See my post #84.



    Really? Seems like it lasted for 70 years in that exact same spot.
    I just want to shed light on this whole debate on who to blame when it comes to a whole chain of events. If you wanna blame ACLU, I get to blame Pastor Jones for what happened to those NATO personnel in Afghanistan, agreed?
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Aclu

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    I just want to shed light on this whole debate on who to blame when it comes to a whole chain of events. If you wanna blame ACLU, I get to blame Pastor Jones for what happened to those NATO personnel in Afghanistan, agreed?
    Clearly, the only reasonable way to answer this is...oh look over there!...Sleestacks!



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    Re: Aclu

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    If believing that civil liberties are important makes me a far left liberal, I accept the tag whole heartedly. Insulting people for standing up for personal liberty is hilarious.

    the ACLU is rather narrow minded when it comes to standing up for personal liberty

    owning a gun
    associating with whom you want to associate with
    keeping what you make

    are all important liberties that the ACLU tends to ignore



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    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    the ACLU is rather narrow minded when it comes to standing up for personal liberty

    owning a gun
    associating with whom you want to associate with
    keeping what you make

    are all important liberties that the ACLU tends to ignore
    Other advocacy groups make up for the difference.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Aclu

    ACLU does some good things, but they can really go overboard sometimes.

    ACLU Of Texas Protects Students
    Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

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    Re: Aclu

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    the ACLU is rather narrow minded when it comes to standing up for personal liberty

    owning a gun
    associating with whom you want to associate with
    keeping what you make

    are all important liberties that the ACLU tends to ignore
    The NRA has a rather narrow focus as well. Do you hold that against them?
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    Re: Aclu

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The NRA has a rather narrow focus as well. Do you hold that against them?
    The NRA is very specific to one right, the right to bear arms. Supposedly the ACLU is the protector of all civil liberties, isn't it?
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    Re: Aclu

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    The NRA is very specific to one right, the right to bear arms. Supposedly the ACLU is the protector of all civil liberties, isn't it?
    You do not know? I will give you a chance here. Look it up. It will save you making yet another faulty argument(Hint, look here: Key Issues | American Civil Liberties Union...oops)
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    Re: Aclu

    Why can't people just accept fact's, it's hillarious seeing people make claims, and then have those claims be destroyed by multiple links providing evidence.
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