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Is it Ok for Black Comedians to Bash Whites?

Is it OK for Blacks to Bash Whites for Comedy Purposes?

  • Yes

    Votes: 54 77.1%
  • No

    Votes: 16 22.9%

  • Total voters
    70

TDZ

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We see it on TV and in the movies everyday. A black comedian or a black sitcom or a black movie. They move directly into bashing on whites, calling them honkies, crackers and other derogatory terms. Often times they'll have whites appear to be ignorant about the world around them and so on.

They're are even stations, BET, that tailor a large segment of their broadcasts are directed right at this type of comedy.

So, should this be allowed or is this another type of racism? Should whites be allowed to launch all white networks, such as WET, that target their jokes towards blacks?

Keep in mind, blacks use the term "cracker" and "honkie" (recently heard Kid Rock use Honkie) all the time, when's the last time you heard a modern movie where a white used the "N" word?
 
Depends on what you mean by okay. Jokes about all races are a significant part of comedy. You take that away, the funny goes away too.
 
Yep, nothing should be off limits IMO.
 
Keep in mind, blacks use the term "cracker" and "honkie" (recently heard Kid Rock use Honkie) all the time, when's the last time you heard a modern movie where a white used the "N" word?

Theyre not quite equivalent...
Also, lotsof white people think it's funny.
If there was an issue alot of people would be offended
Seems to be just you. :shrug:
 
There will always be a double standard. The argument is, "whites don't need _______, because every other ______ already favors white people". You can fill that in with TV channels, scholarships, rights organizations, colleges, etc. It's probably true, to some extent. I don't really care at the end of the day if we don't have a "WET" channel, or if jokes are made against us. Lisa Lampanelli has made jokes about black people. Greg Geraldo, too. George Carlin and Bill Hicks made fun of everybody. It's all about exploiting stereotypes.
 
It might not be moral to be racist, but you certainly have every right to be.
 
We see it on TV and in the movies everyday. A black comedian or a black sitcom or a black movie. They move directly into bashing on whites, calling them honkies, crackers and other derogatory terms. Often times they'll have whites appear to be ignorant about the world around them and so on.

They're are even stations, BET, that tailor a large segment of their broadcasts are directed right at this type of comedy.

So, should this be allowed or is this another type of racism? Should whites be allowed to launch all white networks, such as WET, that target their jokes towards blacks?

Keep in mind, blacks use the term "cracker" and "honkie" (recently heard Kid Rock use Honkie) all the time, when's the last time you heard a modern movie where a white used the "N" word?

The words "honkie" and "cracker" don't have the same connotation as "nigger." They just don't. I don't find either name offensive, actually -- because I wasn't asked to sit in the back of the bus or sleep in a different hotel or drink out of a separate fountain or use a different restroom or step off the sidewalk when a white went by or risk getting killed if I whistled at a black woman or made to serve my master morning 'til night.

Very different circumstances.
 
The words "honkie" and "cracker" don't have the same connotation as "nigger." They just don't. I don't find either name offensive, actually -- because I wasn't asked to sit in the back of the bus or sleep in a different hotel or drink out of a separate fountain or use a different restroom or step off the sidewalk when a white went by or risk getting killed if I whistled at a black woman or made to serve my master morning 'til night.

Very different circumstances.
Nether have most "black" people today had any of that done to them...
 
Their parents or grandparents might well have, in fact anyone over 50 years old may remember it.
 
It's okay for comedians to be racist if they're funny.
 
The words "honkie" and "cracker" don't have the same connotation as "nigger." They just don't. I don't find either name offensive, actually -- because I wasn't asked to sit in the back of the bus or sleep in a different hotel or drink out of a separate fountain or use a different restroom or step off the sidewalk when a white went by or risk getting killed if I whistled at a black woman or made to serve my master morning 'til night.

Very different circumstances.

So, who is n ow forced to sit in the back of the bus, sleep in a different hotel, or drink out of separate fountains, or use a different restroom, or step off the sidewalk when a white went by....?

Sure, historically these things did happen; but currently do not. No one alive today has had to face that if they were born in the US.

The reason there is now a big difference between nigger and cracker is that people today keep insisting that there is a big difference between the two. Racists.
 
We see it on TV and in the movies everyday. A black comedian or a black sitcom or a black movie. They move directly into bashing on whites, calling them honkies, crackers and other derogatory terms. Often times they'll have whites appear to be ignorant about the world around them and so on.

They're are even stations, BET, that tailor a large segment of their broadcasts are directed right at this type of comedy.

So, should this be allowed or is this another type of racism? Should whites be allowed to launch all white networks, such as WET, that target their jokes towards blacks?

Keep in mind, blacks use the term "cracker" and "honkie" (recently heard Kid Rock use Honkie) all the time, when's the last time you heard a modern movie where a white used the "N" word?

But black comedians also make fun of themselves and their race daily...look at the Wayans Brothers and early Jamie Foxx and Edie Murphy. Didn't Richard Pryor do that too, a bit before my time. The only problem I have is that Whites aren't allowed to make fun of anybody, because that is racist, but other races can make fun of whites, as Eddie Murphy did in his classic SNL sketch, "White Like Us" or whatever that was titled... Mr. White. The bus scene, the banker just giving him money... classic.
 
Nether have most "black" people today had any of that done to them...

Most jews today weren't in concentration camps either. I dare you to make jokes about the holocaust. ;)
 
Most jews today weren't in concentration camps either. I dare you to make jokes about the holocaust. ;)

How do you fit 100 jews into a Volkswagen.

In the ashtray.
 
We see it on TV and in the movies everyday. A black comedian or a black sitcom or a black movie. They move directly into bashing on whites, calling them honkies, crackers and other derogatory terms. Often times they'll have whites appear to be ignorant about the world around them and so on.

They're are even stations, BET, that tailor a large segment of their broadcasts are directed right at this type of comedy.

So, should this be allowed or is this another type of racism? Should whites be allowed to launch all white networks, such as WET, that target their jokes towards blacks?

Keep in mind, blacks use the term "cracker" and "honkie" (recently heard Kid Rock use Honkie) all the time, when's the last time you heard a modern movie where a white used the "N" word?

I think it's fine for a comedian to bash whoever he likes during his performance. If you don't like it, don't buy a ticket to see that comedian.

I also think if more people paid attention to what they are doing in the here and now rather than what their neighbors are doing at all other times, the world would be a lot more fun.
 
How do you fit 100 jews into a Volkswagen.

In the ashtray.

What did Hitler say to the black jew?

"Get in the back of the oven"

It's a joke people, calm down.
 
How do you fit 100 jews into a Volkswagen.

In the ashtray.

I should have made my comment clearer:

I dare anyone who isn't on the far right to make jokes about the holocaust.

sorry, couldn't resist.
 
The words "honkie" and "cracker" don't have the same connotation as "nigger." They just don't. I don't find either name offensive, actually -- because I wasn't asked to sit in the back of the bus or sleep in a different hotel or drink out of a separate fountain or use a different restroom or step off the sidewalk when a white went by or risk getting killed if I whistled at a black woman or made to serve my master morning 'til night.

Very different circumstances.

Is it really different Maggie? Playing Devil's Advocate here. Up into the 1960's/70's you consistently heard whites utilizing the "N" word to reference any/all blacks, regardless of their background. This is how the word came to reference such strong negative connotations. Somewhere along the line, blacks began to refer to themselves by the very same word and as the civil rights movement progressed they developed new words to refer to whites.

While you may have never been enslaved or made to sit in the back of a bus or had to step aside to allow a black to pass, as they did for us. Please bear in mind that these words were all developed to refer to another race in a negative manner. They are meant to incite anger out of those they are direct towards. If I, as a white man, were to walk into the back streets of Harlem (I've actually been there) and yell the "N" word it is unlikely that I would make it out "safely". There is strong suggestion that I would be severely injured if not killed. I would be 100% guilty of utilizing speech to drive people to action in a manner that goes above and beyond civil unrest. The very test that determines whether speech should be censored or not and was put down as the test in Terminillo vs. Chicago (US Supreme Court, you can look up the year and all of that.) This means I'd be guilty of inciting a riot and subject to prosecution, not those who attacked.

However, if a black individual were to come into my neighborhood and begin to scream the words honkie or cracker or another derogatory term and the whites were driven to anger we would more than likely be seen as comitting a hate crime against the black or incited us as the majority of jurisdictions do not view those words as being inflammatory even though they have pretty much the same meaning.

This is highly evident in movies & TV where you see blacks referring to one another with the "N" word and whites in a manner that depicts a negative connotation, while knowing full well that they would be in any group that attacked a white for doing exactly the same thing. Is it a double standard? Yes, it is in my mind.

Let's move this a little further though, to maybe bring it home a little better. Have you ever seen a caucasian child grow up in a majority minority area, to be the only caucasian? This child is subjected daily to the attacks from the minority children utilizing the very words that we laugh at. These child who will taunt the caucasian are never charged with a hate crime, they are only told to knock it off at best. However, let that little caucasian child slip one time and utilize the "N" word or call a Mexican child a "spic" or an Arab child a "towel head" and they will immediately be reprimanded for racism and potentially utilizing hate language.

We bust our behinds to teach caucasian children to not utilize these words and that everyone is created equal, yet the minorities that we have fought so hard to protect are the very ones that find humor in slamming the caucasian race.

Remember, racism knows no race when it victimizes.
 
I cringe at jokes about the Holocaust or racist jokes, but you have every legal right to say them.
 
I should have made my comment clearer:



sorry, couldn't resist.

I guess you're just wrong all over the place. Also, I'm not on the far right.
 
But black comedians also make fun of themselves and their race daily...look at the Wayans Brothers and early Jamie Foxx and Edie Murphy. Didn't Richard Pryor do that too, a bit before my time. The only problem I have is that Whites aren't allowed to make fun of anybody, because that is racist, but other races can make fun of whites, as Eddie Murphy did in his classic SNL sketch, "White Like Us" or whatever that was titled... Mr. White. The bus scene, the banker just giving him money... classic.

the boondocks is an AMAZING show

 
Actually I've listen to a lot of black comedians joke about blacks, and make jokes about stereotypical black things. So I don't think there's a big problem out there.
 
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